Now I know!  Thanks Al.

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Al K0VM
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:53 AM
To: Flex-Edge E-Mail Reflector
Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] older slower laptop

  On my Old Gateway laptop, the built in Wi-FI does have DPC spike each
60 seconds.  If I disable the built in Wi-Fi driver and use an external
Netgear USB WI-FI dongle, then the DPC spikes go away and Flex is happy.

I think the difference is that the built in Wi-Fi performs some functions in
the software driver (Atheos) that the USB dongle preforms in hardware.

AL, K0VM

On 7/2/2012 10:37 AM, Scott Myers wrote:
> As Tim will tell you; Being able to operate a Flex on a laptop (or any
> computer) has about ZERO to do with the processor speed of any 
> processor they have made in the last 10 years or so.  I used to run my 
> flex on a Pentium 4 with 1 Gb of RAM with no problems.
>
> I've tried about 8 different laptops on a Flex.  I've had ones with 
> more processor power work poorly while older ones worked well.  There 
> is no predicting as to which one will work well.  It comes down to the 
> solidness of the bus and the components, not the processor.  With the 
> shrinking of components for a laptop, comes trade-offs in the 
> hardware.  And in the production of laptops, it often comes down to 
> low bid from their suppliers, unfortunately.  This is where the DPC 
> latency comes in.  So don't think that a laptop won't handle CW, it just
takes a good laptop.
>
> For what it is worth, I've noted that T series Lenovo's I've tried 
> worked pretty well.  The Dells and HP's I've tried seemed to have poor 
> DSP numbers, but perhaps that was just the luck of the draw on the 
> models I checked.  But laptops all seem to suffer if the built-in 
> wireless network adapter is left running.  I wonder of using a USB 
> dongle wifi adapter would make a difference?
>
> 73,
> Scott AC8DE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Allen
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 3:31 PM
> To: Ted Leonard; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] older slower laptop
>
> I have a Dell Laptop that I  used with my F3K.  Worked well with the 
> F3K; but, does not work well with the F1.5K.  Too much latency for CW.  
> Was going to take the laptop and F1.5K with me on field day; but, 
> latency was really bad.
>
> The Laptop is a dual core Dell (not sure of the speed).
>
> The F1.5K works well with the W7 multicore desk system, so took the 
> big computer and F1.5K on field day.
>
> George
> K2CM
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> [[email protected]] on behalf of Ted Leonard 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [FlexEdge] older slower laptop
>
> I have a 3000 on a nice spedy desktop and life is good. While I 
> realize a
> 1.6 gHz laptop in XP is pretty minimal for my Flex I would like to try 
> it on a quick portable op as the laptop runs happily on 12VDC thus 
> eliminating the need for an inverter. It has a firewire port (unknown 
> chipset) but has the small rectangular connector on the computer for 
> the firewire cable, I am guessing there is a standard cable on one end 
> that would go to the Flex and the small rectangular connector on the 
> other end that would go to the laptop or it it just a little adapter I 
> would need. (any part reference would be
> helpful)
>
> Other option would be I think to use a proper Firewire card in the 
> card slot it has it will take up to two type l or ll cards or one type 
> lll card what would be the proper Firewire card to get for this?
> Then I could use the Firewire cable I already have. Or am I way off 
> base---I do realize it would be a minimal setup. It is a Panasonic CF51
Toughbook.
>
> Thanks for thoughts,
> Ted W3VG
>
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