Perhaps one should re-read and apply what the current ARRL antenna book (22nd 
edition) says about full length loops and compare it to a multiband dipole of 
similar height.  

Figure 5-18 depicts a pattern of such a 50 ft high (~1.5 Lambda) loop with 
maximum gain of 5.32 dBd at 15 degrees elevation, which is almost exactly what 
it shows for a dipole in Figure 3.46J.  So no published loop advantage there.

What is more limiting about the loop pattern is that its peaks and nulls are at 
less predictable azimuths then the dipole.  Deep nulls (>12 DB) also exist at 
azimuths all around the loop. Suppose the desired signal impinges at a null, 
and interference at a peak?  How would you resolve it?  How would you even know 
it?  Incidentally, I don't find a list of "superior characteristics' compared 
to a dipole published for the full length loop in your reference.   

Two orthogonal, multiband dipoles take about the same space as a full length 
loop but resolve the loop issues and add significant benefits to Flex users.  
With one multiband dipole feeding RX1 and the other to RX2 you instantly can 
recognize the preferred antenna.  You can also listen in stereo in high angle 
polarization diversity or use the ESC feature of the Flex.  For diverse bands 
of interest, multiband reception is uncompromised by a miss tuned antenna.  All 
designed bands are always resonant, similar to a LPDA, so you can instantly QSY 
at QRO power and have no limitations imposed by the characteristics and loss of 
a tuner.    

Particularly for wideband Flex 6000 series low band operation, unless you can 
erect a 160-40 LPDA, a multiband dipole (or better yet orthogonal multiband 
dipoles), may provide a good choice.  Beverages are also a good multiband 
reception antenna.

Why would you incur the cost, RF loss, and inflexibility of a tuner when the 
answer exists elegantly in wire.  

Bill 
AB7AA 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Z [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FlexEdge] MULTIBAND HF ANTENNA

I use a 320 foot long horizontal full one wavelength loop antenna designed for 
3.2 MHz.  It is fed with approximately 100 feet of 450 ohm ladderline whose 
exact length is tuned for lowest SWR on its design frequency.  Then comes a 9:1 
balun from CWS bytemark to a palstar at auto antenna tuner.

I have also used this setup with ldg at200pc antenna tuner which is popular for 
MARS ALE.

I have also used it with the flex 5000 internal atu.

A 9:1 balun is important when using ATUs with tuning range inferior to the 
palstar at-auto which is now discontinued.

I use this from 160m to 10m and everywhere inbetween.  This is a popular MARS 
antenna hung low for NVIS use.  Thus antenna is also popular for MARS ALE use.

It sounds to me that those using multiple dipoles are behind the times.  You 
should read about the superior characteristics of a full wavelength horizontal 
loop in the ARRL antenna book.

Regards,
Howard
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