Steve, You know, some of us have tools and know how to try some of these ideas (Software & Logicware). An API would be really nice for us to play...
Michael Hasenfratz ======================== Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:04 PM, "Stephen Hicks, N5AC" <[email protected]> wrote: > It's funny, when we have conversations like this inside the company, since > we are all hams we think about what we would want or what would be neat to > have first. We dream just like you were doing and then we all stop > ourselves and say: OK, now could we actually sell this to someone else and > what would it cost to do it? There are so many good ideas of neat things > that can be done -- some from internal sources and some from external. If > only someone could give us 48 hours in a day to do them all ;-) > > Steve > > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Rick McClelland, AA5S > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Hi, Steve; >> >> Thank you for responding to my note, that really wasn't necessary since I >> was just speculating/dreaming about something really groovy to do with the >> 6700 series radios. Furthermore, presuming that this point isn't already >> obvious, my thoughts about combining a 6700 and 6700R for improved receive >> performance were completely without a technical basis for understanding how >> such a combination would be made possible. >> >> However, it seems from your response that there may be, at least at some >> point in the future, a possibility of this becoming reality. I'm pretty >> confident the receive performance of a stand-alone 6700 would meet the >> needs of most amateurs (case in point, my Flex 1500 seems to be suiting my >> needs just fine.) I was thinking of this from the view of a stake-holder >> in the company, wouldn't it be groovy if instead of selling a single radio >> to the high-end amateur, Flex could sell two or four? That would have to >> be a positive outcome for all involved, including those of us still >> happily puttering around with 'legacy' radios. >> >> Rick >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Stephen Hicks, N5AC >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Rick, >>> >>> There are many forms of combining signals for better reception. In the >>> 6700(R), the two SCUs are completely synchronized (ALL LOs are >>> synchronous). This is not a trivial assertion -- there are very few radios >>> that can make this assertion and no other commercially available amateur >>> radios. This gives rise to some exceptionally easy combining that gives >>> immediate benefits in terms of sensitivity and dynamic range. >>> >>> The 6000 series also has an optional GPS module that is designed to help >>> in the synchronization of receivers that are or are not next to each other. >>> Combining signals that are generated with a separate LO/sampling clock, >>> that have not been synchronized is a harder problem. The GPS makes this >>> easier, but also allows us to send signals across the Internet and combine >>> signals knowing both where and when they originated. The benefits from >>> this will come later as the software is developed. >>> >>> Incidentally, our CDRX-3200 is a blade-architecture receiver that can >>> synchronize 32 receivers. It also costs in the mid-five-figures. The cost >>> of developing and build a blade-architecture system is significantly more >>> than what we came up with in the 6000-series. We did consider a blade >>> system, but every time we added up all the connectors, separate PCBs, >>> hardware and sheet metal we would realize that the ME's in the office were >>> getting more than their fair share of the product cost. We want product >>> cost to stay in the EE/SW side of the house. And we wanted the radio to be >>> as affordable as we could make it. ;-) >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Stephen Hicks, N5AC, AAR6AM >>> VP Engineering >>> FlexRadio Systems™ >>> 4616 W Howard Ln Ste 1-150 >>> Austin, TX 78728 >>> Phone: 512-535-4713 x205 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Web: www.flexradio.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *Tune In Excitement™* >>> PowerSDR™ is a trademark of FlexRadio Systems >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Rick McClelland, AA5S < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, we can ignore that part of my posting (it was 2 am, after all), I'm >>>> curious as to whether there would be any real, tangible benefit to >>>> lashing >>>> together a 6700 and a 6700R? This is certainly within the reach >>>> (economically) of a fair number of hams. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Dan Parsons <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You just described what they already make for the government :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dan >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:08 AM, "Rick McClelland, AA5S" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I notice in the Flex 6700 brochure: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Each of the two Spectral Capture Units allows simultaneous reception >>>> from >>>>>> their own respective antenna or the two can be optimally combined to >>>>>> deliver increased dynamic range. In addition, dual SCUs provide the >>>>>> capability for diversity reception, >>>>>> >>>>>> beam steering, noise mitigation, and multi-antenna monitoring. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If we can combine two SCUs for increased dynamic range or diversity >>>>>> reception, etc., how about combining a Flex 6700 with a Flex 6700R >>>> such >>>>>> that a single client utilizes four SCUs, two optimized for dynamic >>>> range >>>>>> and two for diversity reception? Of course if we can do that, let's >>>>> ditch >>>>>> the 6700 form factor altogether and put two SCUs in a half height >>>> blade >>>>> and >>>>>> the same with a 500w transmitter module and stuff these into a HP >>>> c7000 >>>>>> series enclosure. We could have sixteen 500w transmitter modules >>>> and 96 >>>>>> SCUs in a single rack for the ultimate 8kw transceiver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a thought, I guess I should stop dreaming and get back to bed. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rick McClelland, AA5S >>>>>> Fort Collins, CO >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Flexedge mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz >>>>>> This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It >>>> is >>>>> used for posting topics related to SDR software development and >>>>> experimentalist who are using beta versions of the software. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Flexedge mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz >>>>> This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is >>>>> used for posting topics related to SDR software development and >>>>> experimentalist who are using beta versions of the software. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rick McClelland, AA5S >>>> Fort Collins, CO >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Flexedge mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz >>>> This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is >>>> used for posting topics related to SDR software development and >>>> experimentalist who are using beta versions of the software. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rick McClelland, AA5S >> Fort Collins, CO >> > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. 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