Steve,

Thanks so much for the "official" output power specification for he 6700 on 2 
meters!!!

Another of your customers relayed similar info, but I like the feel of 
guaranteed minimums instead of a range.

If I can count on +5 dBm, then it changes the ball game a bit.  I notice that 
many of the Mitsubishi MOSFET power modules have a 1-dB INPUT compression point 
of around +5 dBm.  That means that they might be well suited to following the 
6700 directly, without needing an inter-stage driver device.

With +5 dBm in mind, my new plan is to try out a Down East 2M30PA amplifier, 
built around a Toshiba S-AV33, to see how it behaves with +5 dBm of drive and 
evaluate its INPUT 1-dB compression point.  If it proves un-worthy of my 
aspirations for it, it seems well suited to serve as an experimental vehicle 
for substituting various Mitsubishi MOSFET power modules to see how they 
behave.  There is a new RA80H1415M1 module that has 39 dB of gain (1-dB 
compressed) at +5 dBm.  That gives +44 dBm, or about 25 Watts of output from an 
ostensibly 80 Watt device.  Since the 6700 won't drive it much harder, it 
should be thermally safe to substitute for the S-AV33 as a direct swap.

The Mitsu RA60H1317M has more gain, but is a 3-stage device that loses 1-dB of 
gain closer to 0 dBm.  It seems to put out about the same amount of power at 
the 1-dB INPUT compression point as the RA80 above.

An RA60H1317M1A is a 60W device that has 2 stages, a little less gain than its 
3-stage brother, but has a 1-dB INPUT compression point around +3 to +5 dBm, 
depending on frequency.  Its gain depends on frequency more than the others.  
At +5 dBm it delivers 20 Watts @ 136 MHZ.  The same +5 dBm delivers 40 Watts @ 
155 MHz.  So, it is somewhere in between @ 144MHz -- it needs testing.

I sure wish Toshiba's data sheets gave the same amount of information on gain, 
gain compression, and power output vs. frequency that the Mitsubishi data 
sheets give.


I'll see what happens when I test the 2M30PA to give some direction to the 
project.

Thanks again for the transverter jack output data!

Cheers,

Mike - W8MM


On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "Stephen Hicks, N5AC" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

Mike,

The TXDVGA in the radio goes into clip at around +7 to +8dBm on two meters.  
More power output is available on HF -- around +16 to +17dBm.  You should be 
able to safely plan on always having +5dBm on two meters and this will give you 
a little margin.  They are not walking around by more than 1dBm or so.

Steve


Steve

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