The digests apparently are sent when the amount of data (messages in
bytes) reaches a certain amount, rather than simply sending once a day.
This is something I found strange about the setup, but didn't see an
option to make it daily, weekly or otherwise.  If anyone has experience
setting up mailman software, please chime in and point out the hidden
option for us.  We are relatively new at being Reflector admins.  ;)

Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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How come there is sometimes many digests 
per day and not just one per day?
Regards,
Paul

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Today's Topics:

   1. Setup here (Robert McGwier)
   2. Who would miss the MixW virtual serial ports? (Bob Tracy)
   3. Re: Observations on release 1.3.10 (Robert McGwier)
   4. Re: Setup here (Robert McGwier)
   5. Re: 13.10 Compandor (Frank Brickle)
   6. RE: Linux/Windows hybrid ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   7. Re: 13.10 Compandor (Frank Brickle)
   8. Re: Linux/Windows hybrid (Robert McGwier)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:30:23 +0000
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] Setup here
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I am listening to Don Imus and using tiny dsp and small audio buffers.
Here
are captures of my setup while I am listening right now.   It is using 
256 DMA
buffers from D44.  Your DMA buffers must be smaller than or equal to the
smallest AUDIO (3rd panel down) or portaudio will not do the right
thing.
Not I am using 64 sample filters.  I am spinning the DSP four times for
each
delivered audio buffer (2nd panel, DSP set to 64,  3rd pane, Audio set 
to 256).

I ran the console on my Laptop using the Soundmax (PCI) and the Audigy 2
ZS,
both using ASIO4ALL 2.6, released April 11 (it seems very solid).  From
the
notices,  it seems they fixed many significant issues that crept into 
2.2 up to 2.5.

Good luck with your setup.

Bob
N4HY
















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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:32:22 -0500
From: "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] Who would miss the MixW virtual serial ports?
To: <FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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All,

As most of you know, Phil Covington (N8VB), Bill Tracey (KD5TFD), and I
have
been working on the project to give the SDR-1000 virtual serial port and
CAT
command capabilities.  Our earliest success, thanks mostly to Bill, was
with
the MixW Virtual Comm ports.  Since then, Phil has come up with superior
port software that I think most folks have switched to.

Phil has a new version in the works that, with some changes in my CAT
code,
really speeds up the CAT command process.  The problem is that it
certainly
will not be compatible with the MixW ports.  THIS CHANGE WILL HAVE NO
EFFECT
ON USING THE MIXW PROGRAM ITSELF.  It only means you will have to use
Phil's
serial ports.

We would like to hear from anyone who feels this would be a serious
inconvenience.

73,


Bob K5KDN






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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:17 +0000
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Observations on release 1.3.10
To: Steve Nance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Steve:

As its says in the release notes,  the new keyer does not support the 
memory or keyboard
modes. For these to work, you will need to go to the Setup->DSP panel 
and UNCHECK
newkeyer.  Click OK.  It works now in the old keyer panel.  This 
direction, New Keyer,
going to old keyer seems pretty solid.  There is one faux pas.  When 
unchecking newkeyer,
I forgot to stop the keyer timer.

There is a bug in going from Old Keyer to New Keyer.  This is because I 
forgot to
START the keyer timer.   I will get this sorted out today.

When you go from Old Keyer to New Keyer,  the semi break in does not 
work at all.
You have to check New Keyer,  click Apply/Ok.  LEAVE THE CONSOLE and
restart it.

For those of you using the D44,  you need to have TX out/Line Out going
from
outputs 3,4 going to Line Out on the radio.   Outputs 1,2 go to the
speaker.
Then you have to have Mon turned on to get the sidetone.

Bob



Steve Nance wrote:

> Kudos to the coding team, the new keyer is the best yet, defiantly 
> getting close.
>
>  
>
> CW Defects:
>
> Keyer break in works good but the PTT line is never released.
>
>  
>
> The other manual cw modes (keyboard, mouse) seem to be inoperative. 
> The PTT works but there is no output or side tone.
>
>  
>
> In automatic cw modes there is no output from the keyboard or memory 
> buffers.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
> Steve - K5FR
>
>  
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:32 +0000
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Setup here
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Darn it.  The mailer stripped my screen captures.  I sent them to Ken.  
Hopefully,
he can get them onto Friends.

Bob


Robert McGwier wrote:

> I am listening to Don Imus and using tiny dsp and small audio 
> buffers.  Here
> are captures of my setup while I am listening right now.   It is using

> 256 DMA
> buffers from D44.  Your DMA buffers must be smaller than or equal to
the
> smallest AUDIO (3rd panel down) or portaudio will not do the right
thing.
> Not I am using 64 sample filters.  I am spinning the DSP four times 
> for each
> delivered audio buffer (2nd panel, DSP set to 64,  3rd pane, Audio set

> to 256).
>
> I ran the console on my Laptop using the Soundmax (PCI) and the Audigy

> 2 ZS,
> both using ASIO4ALL 2.6, released April 11 (it seems very solid).  
> From the
> notices,  it seems they fixed many significant issues that crept into 
> 2.2 up to 2.5.
>
> Good luck with your setup.
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:07:32 -0400
From: Frank Brickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 13.10 Compandor
To: Jos? Dumoulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 'FlexRadio' <Flexradio@Flex-radio.biz>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Since I wrote the compander and sneaked it into the DSP 
without telling anybody, I'll take some of the blame here :-)

Appended, for those who care, is a little python program 
that lets you print out the companding function and plot it.
The variable "factor" is the compression/expansion control. 
By default factor is 0, meaning no compansion. Negative 
values compress, positive expand.

73
Frank
AB2KT

Jos? Dumoulin wrote:
> Bob, Eric, Gerald..... (Alphabetical order)
> 
> F?licitations ! Historians will remember two (2) periods : before and 
> after the compandor.
> 73 de Jos? - F5JD
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#----------------------------------------------------------
#/usr/bin/env python

import math
from Numeric import *

class WSCompander:
     def __init__(self, factor = 0, npts = 1024):
         self.npts = npts
         self.last = npts - 1
         self.table = array(arange(0, npts), Float)
         self.ReCalc(factor)

     def ReCalc(self, factor):
         if factor == 0:
             for i in range(0, self.npts):
                 self.table[i] = i / float(self.npts)
         else:
             delta = factor / float(self.last)
             scale = 1.0 - math.exp(factor)
             for i in range(0, self.npts):
                 self.table[i] = (1.0 - math.exp(i * delta)) 
/ scale

     def Compand(self, x):
         s = sign(x)
         if x < 0:
             x = -x
         d = x - int(x)
         j = int(x * self.npts)
         if j < self.last:
             k = j + 1
             y = self.table[j] + d * (self.table[k] - 
self.table[j])
         else:
             y = self.table[self.last]
         return s * y

def main():
     wsc = WSCompander(-4, 512)
     eps = 0.005
     inp = arange(-1, 1 + eps / 2, eps, Float)
     out = map(wsc.Compand, inp)
     for i in range(0, len(inp)):
         print '%7.4f %7.4f' % (inp[i], out[i])

if __name__ == "__main__":
     main()





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:16:03 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Linux/Windows hybrid
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
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Great stuff Frank. I cut my teeth on Unix 25 years ago and really
haven't
touched it much since. It's amazing how much it's moved forward and yet
stayed fundamentally the same.

If only I didn't have to work for a living!

I must admit not having looked at the dsp code yet but I did notice the
named pipes for the display data, which I will need to hook into at some
point. As my cat keeps saying 'so much time and so little to do' -- or
should that be the other way round.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Brickle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 June 2005 15:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux/Windows hybrid

Bob --

Bravo!

> This is all going to be unashamedly pythonic.

Works for me :-)

>    6. I notice a lot of traffic on the list to do with virtual comms
and
>       sound interfaces. I don't know but I think we possibly have
other
>       options in linux. Could we use Jack for example to route samples
>       to other applications.

That's exactly what you would do, and what it's for.

In the Linux version there's a separate pair of controllable 
audion inputs, jack ports, that mix with the other inputs. 
The aux audio channels mix with the RX stream as *late* as 
possible, with the TX stream as *early* as possible.

Over the next few days I will be adding another pair of 
ports for aux output, which will be tappable at different 
stages in the RX or TX chain. If you look at the 
scope/spectrum code, you'll see there's a long circular 
buffer of sample data which only gets processed and sent to 
a client on request, through a named pipe. This same sample 
data will be available as a continuous stream on the aux 
jack output ports.

One other little utility coming shortly is a jack client 
that does nothing but downsample audio from 48k to 8k and 
convert to ulaw, or vice-versa. Should definitely ease the 
network burden. Should be pretty easy to incorporate other 
forms of audio compression and coding on this model.

Great work, Bob.

73
Frank
AB2KT

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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:29:45 -0400
From: Frank Brickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 13.10 Compandor
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BTW, question for anybody who can help.

The compansion function is basically a bounded, 
single-quadrant version of

f(x) = (1 - exp(x)) / (1 - exp(alpha))

mirrored into a second quadrant for x < 0, for compansion 
factor alpha.

This kind of waveshaping is usually analyzed in terms of 
harmonic content. It would be great to be able to express 
the compansion in dB, but I don't have the first clue how to 
derive it, beyond integrating and scaling, and that doesn't 
yield anything intelligible so far. Any ideas?

For what it's worth, the compander is nothing more than a 
tame fuzz box :-)

73
Frank
AB2KT




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:27:45 +0000
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux/Windows hybrid
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

One other thing that Frank has added at my request is the ability
to add arbitrary functions, ANY function that meets the API for it
to the middle of the overlap save computation.  This is step one
in the block LMS,  and all sorts of stuff that Linrad does and
we can also add.  This bit of cleverness will really begin to
distinguish this from any other kind of radio.

Sharpen your ""WHATEVER LANGUAGE YOU WANT" tools
to roll your own function and get it into the dsp stream at the
proper place in the frequency domain.  We will add one to
the time domain output of the demodulation as well.

This will make it easy for you to add custom tasks and we the
users  can pick and choose from these add ons.  Yuu can add
an entire library of functions with your own control mechanism
so long as the signal flows into and out of this API port(s).

BRAVO FRANK.

Bob



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Great stuff Frank. I cut my teeth on Unix 25 years ago and really 
> haven't touched it much since. It's amazing how much it's moved 
> forward and yet stayed fundamentally the same.
>
> If only I didn't have to work for a living!
>
> I must admit not having looked at the dsp code yet but I did notice 
> the named pipes for the display data, which I will need to hook into 
> at some point. As my cat keeps saying 'so much time and so little to 
> do' -- or should that be the other way round.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Brickle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 June 2005 15:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux/Windows hybrid
>
> Bob --
>
> Bravo!
>
> > This is all going to be unashamedly pythonic.
>
> Works for me :-)
>
> >    6. I notice a lot of traffic on the list to do with virtual comms

> and
> >       sound interfaces. I don't know but I think we possibly have
other
> >       options in linux. Could we use Jack for example to route
samples
> >       to other applications.
>
> That's exactly what you would do, and what it's for.
>
> In the Linux version there's a separate pair of controllable
> audion inputs, jack ports, that mix with the other inputs.
> The aux audio channels mix with the RX stream as *late* as
> possible, with the TX stream as *early* as possible.
>
> Over the next few days I will be adding another pair of
> ports for aux output, which will be tappable at different
> stages in  the RX or TX chain. If you look at the
> scope/spectrum code, you'll see there's a long circular
> buffer of sample data which only gets processed and sent to
> a client on request, through a named pipe. This same sample
> data will be available as a continuous stream on the aux
> jack output ports.
>
> One other little utility coming shortly is a jack client
> that does nothing but downsample audio from 48k to 8k and
> convert to ulaw, or vice-versa. Should definitely ease the
> network burden. Should be pretty easy to incorporate other
> forms of audio compression and coding on this model.
>
> Great work, Bob.
>
> 73
> Frank
> AB2KT
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