Willi
I think we are all on the same page here.
Thank you for the kind words and thoughts.
Gerald has provided for the reward in the annual Flexi awards. My Flexi
award is worth more money than is in the world, and I was VERY honored to
have been chosen for it. This year there will be 3 awarded at Dayton, and
they will be VERY difficult choices!
Strictly personal note:
The SDR and being involved with you fantastically creative users has
been more enjoyment for me than any money can buy, and I know I am NOT the
only one who feels that way. It is like seeing a baby being born! I do not
wish to get any $ for this effort since it then makes me feel 'obligated'
and I should I wish to wander off from my interest, I do not 'owe' anyone. I
realize that is not what you are saying, but just my personal feeling.
See my note which 'passed' yours to Phil Covington. If we, as users, can
come up with a method of contributing $ to an effort which might not happen
otherwise I am totally for it!
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Willi Reppel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:36 AM
To: ecellison; 'Robert McGwier'; 'Jim Lux'
Cc: 'FlexRadio'
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] M-Audio USB Sound Box
Eric,
I had also to read my message for a couple of times myself before clicking
the send button. My donation idea was not meant to become a wealth builder
for Gerald. The silent mayority of SDR1000 envoyers I hope, feels and knows
that somebody is doing the innovative works in the mean time while they are
running QSOs or do other pleasant things. Donations could be used to reward
some outstanding contributors and cover their expenses. Who knows, a
committee to be formed could perhaps find you as the creator of the Team
Speak eligible for a reward.
Best 73 de Willi
----- Original Message -----
From: "ecellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Willi Reppel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Robert McGwier'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jim Lux'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'FlexRadio'" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] M-Audio USB Sound Box
> Willi
>
> I had to read this a couple of times.
> As a "dyed in the wool" supporter of SDR-1000, Gerald and Flex-Radio
> Systems, I personally am not in favor of donating $ to Flex-Radio Systems
> for R&D or testing cards etc. I think my feeling, about that is more
> philosophical, in that blurs the line between Gerald's gutsy
> entrepreneurial
> effort at a money making venture, and we as users who purchase the
> product.
>
> It is the nature of this product and the obvious policy of this company
> which allows users to become the R&D department, Marketing department,
> Advertising department, Software development department etc. Watching this
> product over the past year, it would appear that this has been a VERY
> successful and symbiotic relationship, without any extra financial support
> to Gerald from his customers. Call me a purist.
>
> As users we have a vested interest in constantly watching the new audio
> products and are doing a pretty effective job of even spotting new sound
> card technology even before it hits the market. Also there are at least 2
> efforts by Phil and Phil to eliminate the sound card altogether, which is
> the ultimate solution, especially if it is a 'modular' hardware solution
> to
> allow for constantly improving D/A - A/D.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now:
> There are actually two threads in Jim Gerald and Bob's messages here. One
> is
> the M-audio USB card and the other is the VAC which we have been
> discussing,
> dissecting and pondering for over a year.
>
> There will always be a few of us who will take the risk at a new sound
> card,
> and be on it pretty quickly. Gerald probably had a D-44 before any of us
> did, since it was obviously the perfect companion at the perfect time. USB
> is still the elusive product, and still in the hunt.
>
> The VAC which Bob mentions is another story. Apparently from what Bob has
> said, this is a VERY reasonably priced software product, we can buy and
> the
> heavy lifting by Bob and others is already done. I think on the Teamspeak
> forum last night we heard that the author will sell it for 25 bux quantity
> 2
> and less in larger quantity. This IS another 'springboard', like the D-44.
> I
> didn't buy it the other night, but would like to hear more about it from
> Bob, Jim, Gerald or anyone experimenting with it.
>
> No disrespect intended in this message. We are ALL volunteer contributors!
>
> Eric - AA4SW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willi Reppel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:50 AM
> To: ecellison; 'Robert McGwier'; 'Jim Lux'
> Cc: 'FlexRadio'
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] M-Audio USB Sound Box
>
> Eric,
>
> The possibility of "add in" of commercial products is a nice feature of
> the
> SDR1000 but also a problem when looking at the speed at which those
> consumer
>
> pro-ducts appear on the market and vanish into limbo. Traditional ham
> radio
> operators use their equipment for 10-15 years while the SDR1000 user may
> be
> tempted to buy and try a new soundcard or box every time he sees an
> advertisement, review or persuasive post on the reflector or forum. Gerald
> should install a button for "Donations" on his Flex-Radio site to enable
> him
>
> to buy and test new products to avoid the purchase of useless "add ins"
> for
>
> the rest of us.
> Have a nice weekend
>
> SM6OMH Willi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ecellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Robert McGwier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jim Lux'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'FlexRadio'" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] M-Audio USB Sound Box
>
>
>> Bob
>>
>> Thanks... off to buy the $49 solution! It is interesting to note, that
>> Software Defined Radios can also 'add in' commercial products. Hope you
>> had
>> a very productive week! .... looks like it.
>>
>> Eric - AA4SW
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:08 PM
>> To: Jim Lux
>> Cc: 'FlexRadio'
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] M-Audio USB Sound Box
>>
>> I agree with Jim on this. In fact, after I got the pseudo audio hook
>> up going, etc., I will be moving over to the Lynx L22 and using the
>> Soundmax, the virtual cable repeater, and a virtual audio cable. The
>> Lynx L22 and cards like it will finally be fully operational.
>>
>> I will write up how we can use the VAC cables, repeaters, etc. and
>> replace the extra ports on the D44 with the VAC connected to the mobo
>> sound card. PortAudio and VAC both are handling differential sampling
>> rates! This will not be a one size fits all because of the extra
>> latency through the cables and repeaters but it WILL make laptops work
>> with the high end sound cards available for them.
>>
>> On Linux laptops, you can already do this with jack.
>>
>> DO NOT rush out and buy a fancy new card for your laptop until Eric gets
>> a chance to build this new facility I am talking about. I left him with
>> all the necessary pieces.
>>
>> Also, if you have a fancy card like the L22 or the Audiophile 192 or
>> whatever it is that (say) Ahti has, the new facility will enable you to
>> use the cheap sound card the way we wanted to before but the hard work
>> has been done for us by others (at the cost of $49). You need ONE
>> high end card and that is for the receiver and low latency on CW, etc.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Lux wrote:
>>
>>>At 06:16 PM 10/19/2005, Gerald Youngblood wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Unfortunately the Fast Track Pro has only two analog inputs and you need
>>>>four to make the radio work on voice. This would probably work for CW
>>>>though.
>>>>Gerald
>>>>K5SDR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>But most laptops DO have a mic input and speakers/headphone output built
>>>in. You don't need as high a performance sound device for those
>>>functions,
>>
>>>right? Or, does everything have to run at the same sample rate and bit
>>>width (since the built in sound device might not support the same
>>>rates/bits as the USB widget).
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged!
>>
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