At 09:43 AM 12/20/2006, A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: >On 12/20/06, Chuck Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I remember an article I saw somewhere back in the 70s that described > > a technique for building a "local" scrambler. The trick was to > mix the audio > > signal with another radio signal that both stations could > receive. The only > > way to make the resultant signal intelligible was to demodulate > it using the > > audio used to modulate it. > > >Now that is one decoder that would be hard to replicate, huh? Maybe >that's why these signals all seem to squeeze in between AM QSO's. >Sounds like a pretty rock solid technique, unless some listener with >the same decoder was able to figure out what signal they used to mix >with.
It should be noted that there ARE software programs out there that do just this sort of signal processing (figure out what the modulation strategy is, and descramble it). It's fairly easy with voice, because voice has a lot of internal structure which the algorithm can look for. The problem is akin to solving a jigsaw puzzle or an archaeologist assembling a broken pot.. you look for structural elements that have to "line up". Such processing has obvious intelligence uses, so the details of implementation tend not to be available in the open literature. It's a classic example of something that is easy to describe, in general, how to do it, but the hard work is in the details. {For instance, it is conceptually easy to describe how to build a CW contesting robot that could dominate the bands, (after all, the exchange is standardized, etc.) tough to actually put the pieces together and do it} James Lux, P.E. Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group Flight Communications Systems Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213 4800 Oak Grove Drive Pasadena CA 91109 tel: (818)354-2075 fax: (818)393-6875 _______________________________________________ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com