Correction.  The follow should have been the sentence I wanted to write

"Most people who have problems with click tuning are not tuning to the correct 
part of the waveform (where the suppressed carrier would be for SSB) and have 
the steps size too large." 

To many priority threads going on at one time. :-)

-Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:56 PM
To: Duane - N9DG; Brian Lloyd; N4PY2
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mouse vs. knob vs. tune step size - WAS: Speaker set-up

I use 500 or 1000 Hz step size for regular phone operation.  A 100 Hz step size 
for phone during a contest.  My hit rate is 99% unless the operator has a radio 
that is off frequency.

Most people who have problems with click tuning are not tuning to the correct 
part of the wave for (where the suppressed carrier would be for SSB) and have 
the steps size too large.

Interesting conversation on "spin tuning".  I truly find that a waste of time 
and motion now that I have a lab grade RF spectrum analyzer (Panadapter) for a 
radio and an interactive way of tuning dead on a frequency with ClickTuning 
within the Panadapter.  I am not saying "spin tuning" is bad, just not my 
preference anymore.  The mouse is more precise and results in a lot less 
computational overhead to make large jumps in frequency.

-Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Duane - N9DG
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:29 PM
To: Brian Lloyd; N4PY2
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mouse vs. knob vs. tune step size - WAS: Speaker set-up



Would be curious what the typical tune step size folks are running in PowerSDR? 
I typically run at either 1 or . 5 kHz step size. It is coarse enough that when 
I click on the appropriate edge of a SSB signal that I see I will hit it dead 
on 95% of the time. And for CW right on top of it. Occasionally I need to mouse 
wheel a step or two.

So do many use the finer step sizes normally? Or the coarser ones like I do? 
The reason I ask it makes me wonder if those who find point and click tuning 
"unfriendly" are also the same ones who run fine sized tuning steps. Mostly 
just a curiosity..

On knob radios I find the extremely slow tunning rates choices/settings very 
annoying, takes forever to tune a signal in. In that regard I always like the 
older analog VFO's that were in the ~20 kHz per revolution rage.

Duane
N9DG 



--- On Thu, 7/2/09, N4PY2 <n4...@earthlink.net> wrote:

 
> I have solved this problem with a mouse wheel that is the type that is 
> weighted and spins.  I have a logitech MX620 mouse that works very 
> well in this application.

<snip>

 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" 
> <brian-wb6...@lloyd.com> This is an interesting example of how a tiny 
> change in user-interface can make a huge difference in usability. I 
> too like a VFO knob. It is actually a very natural way to change 
> frequency and everyone is very comfortable using it. On other radios 
> it works very well.
> Older radios
> with analog VFOs have a much faster tuning rate so that one can use 
> the finger dimple and quickly QSY from one end of the band to the 
> other. Once you get near the desired frequency, the fact that the VFO 
> is analog means that you can tune spot-on just by turning the knob 
> very slowly.

<snip>


      

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