Did a little Googling and it seems this is not unheard of in the MS community. <http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/cant -stop-windows-7-from-defragging/2dc518af-4637-4b6d-9b1e-c63b05456a19>
73, Steve K5FR -----Original Message----- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Nance Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:28 PM To: 'Neal Campbell' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; 'W6SDM Steve' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Auto Defrag from Microsoft Neal - you're probably right as the action is definitely tied to the schedule of the Disk Defragmenter of once a week. I would like to understand this more if there is someone knowledgeable on the subject. 73, Steve K5FR -----Original Message----- From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@me.com] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:23 PM To: Steve Nance Cc: 'W6SDM Steve'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Auto Defrag from Microsoft There is something called a bootloader defrag that I have seen done by these performance utilities that grabs up all the stuff needed to get a machine powered up into windows, so maybe thats what it is. its probably done as a stage in the full disk defrag and since it doesn't do a full disk defrag, it just does this.' 73 On 12/8/2012 2:18 PM, Steve Nance wrote: > Steve you're correct, even if the Disk Defragmenter showed never > defrag the SSD (C:) it did it anyway as evidenced by my event log. > However, the event message was "The disk defragmenter successfully > completed boot optimization on SSD (C:)" and not the normal message of > "The disk defragmenter successfully completed defragmentation on > Disk0,1 (H:)" for the other HDD's. > > > This appears to indicate a different procedure for SSD's and HDD's. > > 73, Steve K5FR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of > W6SDM Steve > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 12:51 PM > To: Neal > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Auto Defrag from Microsoft > > Maybe it's supposed to, but it didn't disable the auto-defrag on my > SSD. I don't know how it would know which drives were SSD (I have > two, a primary and a backup, plus a regular SATA drive) unless it is > smart enough to detect the drive type. > > The way this came up is that DDUtil was disconnecting from PowerSDR > and other things that were "plugged in" to it. It turned out that the > auto-defrag routine was the culprit. > > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Neal<nealk...@me.com> wrote: > > >> From Windows 7 onward (maybe even in Vista but I haven't checked), >> Windows turns off the auto defrag for SSD drives so you do not need >> to worry. You can also set the time that the auto defrag of >> conventional drives (it defaults to 2am on Wednesdays). I usually >> nudge it back to 3am. >> >> 73 >> >> On 12/8/2012 10:20 AM, W6SDM Steve wrote: >> >> >>> This came up in a discussion on the DDUtil Yahoo site when several >>> of us were having problems with DDUtil disconnecting from everything >>> else. The cause, ferreted out by Steve Nance himself, is the auto >>> de-frag utility that is in Windows 7. >>> >>> In it's perpetual effort to add useless, unneeded features while >>> leaving ones out that may actually do someone some good, the >>> Coke-drinking, Cheeto-munching programmers at Microsoft have added a >>> utility that automatically defragments your hard drive at a >>> predetermined >>> > interval. > >>> The >>> default setting is "on" at some ambiguous early-morning schedule. >>> Do yourself a big favor, go into control panel, and turn it off. >>> >>> You can find the setting under Control Panel, Administrative Tools, >>> Defragment your Hard Drive. Hit the Configure Schedule button and >>> un-check Run on a Schedule. >>> >>> Even if you don't use DDUtil, it's not a bad idea to get this out of >>> your schedule - particularly if you use a solid state drive. >>> >>> If you use a solid state drive, like I do, defragmentation is not >>> only unnecessary but it shortens the life of the drive. If you use >>> a regular hard drive, it's unnecessary and, depending on the size of >>> the drive and the speed of your system, can take hours to accomplish. >>> While the defrag utility is running, your computer will feel like >>> someone else is using it while you are. >>> >>> If you have an active computer with lots of files added and deleted, >>> and your hard drive is three quarters or more full, defragmentation >>> isn't a bad idea every few months or so - certainly not once per >>> week. >>> Defragmentation >>> puts all of the available space in once contiguous area and it puts >>> the fragmented files together, which, ever-so-slightly, speeds up access. >>> Back >>> in the day of the 20 MB hard drive, defragmentation would yield a >>> noticeable speed improvement. Not so much anymore. >>> >>> If you do want to defrag your drive occasionally, I recommend a >>> free program called Defraggler from Piriform, the same people who >>> make CCCleaner. It's quick, efficient, safe, and give you a visual >>> indicator of the lever of fragmentation and its progress. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Steve Miller > w6sdm.net > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
