Rob, Interesting your approach to drive balanced audio input. Can you please give more details to get better ssb punch.
I note average power on my 3k and also my 6500 could use some improvement especially if we can maintain that cleAn Flex sound in doing so. 73, Carl/K5HK. Carl Young, K5HK Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:00 AM, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: Send FlexRadio mailing list submissions to flexradio@flex-radio.biz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz You can reach the person managing the list at flexradio-ow...@flex-radio.biz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FlexRadio digest..." Today's Topics: 1. F3K 48 watts out (Dave) 2. Re: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 106, Issue 13 (Robert Logan) 3. Question for all (William and Susan) 4. Re: Question for all (N9RO) 5. Re: Question for all (Mickey Baker) 6. Re: Question for all (Russ Dearmore) 7. For Sale Flex 5000A (Hunter Ellington) 8. Re: Question for all (W1AEX - Rob) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:37:15 -0600 From: Dave <n5d...@cox.net> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] F3K 48 watts out Message-ID: <20140216133715.FXX0K.188273.imail@eastrmwml207> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Check the Drive slider control setting. Default value is 50% which yields about 48 watts. Increase it to 100 % for full output. Dave Wilson N5DBS ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:11:44 -0600 From: Robert Logan <bob.loga...@yahoo.com> To: Frank Meacher <fmeac...@aol.com> Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 106, Issue 13 Message-ID: <69d567ca-32d8-4a9c-80df-021f007c8...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I get a full 5 watts from my 1500 and have since I bought it 4 years ago. Never a problem. The Flex folks have been very helpful in setting it up and transitioning to new versions of the software as well. Bob, NZ5A Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Frank Meacher <fmeac...@aol.com> wrote: I complained about this a number of times and finally decided that is about all you really get out of them. I have 2 of them and output is about the same. The 1500 does good to put out 2 watts. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:00 PM, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: > > Send FlexRadio mailing list submissions to > flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > flexradio-ow...@flex-radio.biz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of FlexRadio digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Power Out (Randy Pence) > 2. 3000 Power Out (Randy Pence) > 3. Re: 3000 Power Out (Ross Stenberg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:21:59 -0500 > From: Randy Pence <kd4...@gmail.com> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Power Out > Message-ID: > <CAMw1X7DaUE_Bj=vygo0qnsxne6xur7tz4eymoigp3cby4mq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Picked up a used 3000 and only see 48 watts out. Good mic drive and TXALC. > I am sure someone will tell me something that will hit me between the eyes > to get the output up. > > Thanks for the help > > Randy/n4jzy > > -- > Randy Pence > N4JZY > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:39:34 -0500 > From: Randy Pence <kd4...@gmail.com> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 Power Out > Message-ID: > <camw1x7b_wx7qvu-ux_rqaxdf1hm3l-p9ztaw5oeup_absrg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Got It > > It hit me between the eyes. > > Thanks > > -- > Randy Pence > N4JZY > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:20:40 -0600 > From: "Ross Stenberg" <ross.stenb...@charter.net> > To: "Randy Pence" <kd4...@gmail.com>, <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 3000 Power Out > Message-ID: <E31BAC006E6B410A9A31E861A970AC96@RossFlexSDR> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Same thing happened to me. It affects about 50% of us. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Pence > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:39 PM > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] 3000 Power Out > > Got It > > It hit me between the eyes. > > Thanks > > -- > Randy Pence > N4JZY > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: > http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ------------------------------ > > End of FlexRadio Digest, Vol 106, Issue 13 > ****************************************** _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:31:38 -0500 From: "William and Susan" <ope...@rcn.com> To: <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: [Flexradio] Question for all Message-ID: <58D179A4524C4BF68A299A8A323F8D75@EPSDRPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good morning to all I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp. I can not load it properly to save my life. As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load Fault." The AMP test well in a dummy load. I know the flex 3000 does not have a ALC connection and I have read and understand the article written that says we do not need an alc connection as it is all done by small incremental drive tuning. But that does not help. I have set the radio up as I have seen on u tube, I have a good match with my antenna using my Palstar antenna tuner. I am very careful with all the mike gain settings. I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams. Is there any suggestions here?? I am fairly sure I have all settings correctly. I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops) although I do not believe that to be the problem. Thanks Bill the Bull lol ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:59:50 -0600 From: "N9RO" <t...@n9ro.com> To: "'William and Susan'" <ope...@rcn.com>, <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question for all Message-ID: <002101cf2bf0$e8977860$b9c66920$@n9ro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I ran an ALS-600 with a 5000 for a very short time but went back to my AL-572. The problem was NOT with the Flex, my antenna was just not a good match without a tuner for the solid state amp. The ALS-600 requires a very low SWR or it will quickly go into fault. 73, Tim N9RO -----Original Message----- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William and Susan Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:32 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Question for all Good morning to all I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp. I can not load it properly to save my life. As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load Fault." The AMP test well in a dummy load. I know the flex 3000 does not have a ALC connection and I have read and understand the article written that says we do not need an alc connection as it is all done by small incremental drive tuning. But that does not help. I have set the radio up as I have seen on u tube, I have a good match with my antenna using my Palstar antenna tuner. I am very careful with all the mike gain settings. I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams. Is there any suggestions here?? I am fairly sure I have all settings correctly. I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops) although I do not believe that to be the problem. Thanks Bill the Bull lol _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:01:03 -0500 From: Mickey Baker <fishflor...@gmail.com> To: William and Susan <ope...@rcn.com> Cc: Reflector <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question for all Message-ID: <caob+t5bnpi4co8cef5_si4z9ensfoqnbzcsggjh-le0aomd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 According to the manual, this is likely caused either by high SWR or overdriving the amp: *If the reflected power exceeds 50 watts the power level should be reduced until the reflected power indicated on the internal meter is 50 watts or less on peaks. At approximately 75 watts of reflected power the internal safety circuitry will disable the amplifier.* SO, 1st, check your SWR. Roll back "RF Power" - drive - and then gradually increase it until you're seeing the rated output from the amp. Then stop. Details on page 15 of the manual. > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM, William and Susan <ope...@rcn.com> wrote: > > Good morning to all > I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp. I can not load it > properly to save my life. As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to > "Load Fault." The AMP test well in a dummy load. I know the flex 3000 > does not have a ALC connection and I have read and understand the article > written that says we do not need an alc connection as it is all done by > small incremental drive tuning. But that does not help. I have set the > radio up as I have seen on u tube, I have a good match with my antenna > using my Palstar antenna tuner. I am very careful with all the mike gain > settings. > I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have > changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams. > Is there any suggestions here?? I am fairly sure I have all settings > correctly. I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops) > although I do not believe that to be the problem. > Thanks > Bill the Bull lol > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Mickey Baker, N4MB Fort Lauderdale, FL *"Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me, and I will learn." *Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:46:54 -0800 (PST) From: Russ Dearmore <champsr...@yahoo.com> To: William and Susan <ope...@rcn.com>, "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question for all Message-ID: <1392652014.38012.yahoomail...@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bill,? I had this problem twice with my Alpha 8406 amp.? The first time was a bad used Alpha Delta coax switch I had picked up at the Plano Hamcom and the second time?I was in a winter storm and the ice was?essentially shorting out?my beam.??When the weather breaks you may not have a problem at all.? If you are using an antenna switching relay the outside unit could be freezing up also.? Just go through a substitution type troubleshooting procedure and I bet you find?the problem pronto.??? Russ K5ZZR????? ?? My Heroes Wear Combat Boots! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ________________________________ > From: William and Susan <ope...@rcn.com> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:31 AM > Subject: [Flexradio] Question for all > > > Good morning to all > I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp.? I can not load it properly > to? save my life.? As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load Fault."? > The AMP test well in a dummy load.? I know the flex 3000 does not have a ALC > connection and I have read and understand the article written that says we do > not need an alc connection as it is all done by small incremental drive > tuning.? But that does not help.? I have set the radio up as I have seen on u > tube, I have a good match with my antenna using my Palstar antenna tuner.? I > am very careful with all the mike gain settings.? > I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have > changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams.? > Is there any suggestions here??? I am fairly sure I have all settings > correctly.? I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops)? > although I do not believe that to be the problem. > Thanks > Bill the Bull? ? lol > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/? Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:38:00 -0800 (PST) From: Hunter Ellington <wb9...@yahoo.com> To: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: [Flexradio] For Sale Flex 5000A Message-ID: <1392655080.81756.yahoomail...@web121301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have for sale a very clean Flex 5000A and a FlexControl unit.? The radio is stock, no second receiver or auto tuner.? Works as it should.? I am the original owner, purchased in 2010.? Non-smoking and no pet environment.? Looking for $1900 plus shipping.? If you want, I can include my TI Firewire card and shielded cable.? Certified funds, USPS Money Order, or PayPal (if you pick up the fees).? Contact me off forum @ wb9...@yahoo.com or by phone, 720-560-8139.? ? K0GFY? R. Hunter Ellington 303-996-6585/720-560-8139 P.O. Box 44 Larkspur, CO 80118 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 11:48:44 -0500 From: W1AEX - Rob <w1aex.f...@cox.net> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question for all Message-ID: <53023d6c.4060...@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bill, I use my Flex 5000A with an ALS-600 and the only time it ever faults is when I forget to manually set the amp's bandswitch to the correct frequency range. The first question I would ask is if you transmit into a 50 ohm dummy load does the amp behave correctly? Since you are using the Palstar antenna tuner I would assume there is no mismatch, but there is a possibility that you have RF feedback and an oscillation is causing the Flex to take off, which the amp will interpret as too much power appearing on its input. I'd be most suspicious of that scenario. A second thought is that the ALS-600 doesn't need a whole lot of drive to make 600 watts PEP so I wonder if maybe you have a peak here and there that crosses the threshold that the fault circuit will tolerate. The ALC adjustments on the back panel and front panel of the ALS-600 will have no effect since there is no ALC connection between the Flex and the amplifier. Are you using the leveler in PowerSDR? Although it doesn't seem to work as effectively as a hardware limiter, it might help to control a rogue peak that sneaks through here and there. After a couple of years of using the native voice processing within PowerSDR I ended up running my station's external audio chain into the balanced input on the back panel. The last active element in the external audio chain is the compressor/limiter which I use to brick wall the audio peaks so that I can raise the average audio content much higher than is possible with the voice processing within PowerSDR. That approach has made a huge difference in the loudness of my signal with voice modes and has eliminated the excessive peaks here and there that used to show up and cause mischief. The ALS-600 seems very comfortable with this approach, and my AL-82 never flinches no matter what I pour into it with the Flex. Good luck! Rob W1AEX ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ------------------------------ End of FlexRadio Digest, Vol 106, Issue 15 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
