Just to add this note:

All 723 devices contain zener diodes that can and will produce low level noise RF 'hash' which can be eliminated by adding bypass caps at the appropriate pins of the 723 device. Just be sure to check the case type of the device vis-a-vis 8 pin IC or round metal case types as the pin-out is different for each type.

I have seen cases where an improvement of 6dB-10dB to the noise floor on 2m results from supplies without OEM bypassing of the devices, such as some Astrons and other older generic 3055 type supplies.

73...Jordan VE6ZT


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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:25 AM
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Like Ed says - the supply/components, once you have them, are quite valuable.

Three key elements make this a not-bad supply to start with, any version/rating, and highly recoverable from any of a few common failures:

- Long-standing 723 regulator - a highly flexible, reliable, FAST, can-be precision regulator. Yes, there are other newer components with a variety of qualities but you "can do just about anything" with a 723 - I've been building 723-based supplies since the mid-70s. Anyone can build a solid regulated supply from the many app notes for this device.

- Along with the 723, aside from the custom transformer, off-the-shelf components - no fancy switching regulators, caps, inductors, tricks. If you can't find a handful of 2n3055 and some big caps you're not looking hard enough.

- custom transformer - brute force tailored for 18-22 v AC source for the regulated section, a separate winding for the regulator source voltage, and there is a LOT of iron between the mains and secondary

I challenge all but the craftiest folks to deal with and repair switchers. I'm good with electronics but I prefer simple and obvious to custom highly compact designs.

A few simple problems/issues I've have with the Astrons - all of which can be solved with after-market parts and 30-60 minutes on the bench:

1. Main supply caps - common issue with any supply - replace or add too them
2. regulator supply cap - I usually rip this thing out and replace with 4700 ufd to beef up the raw DC to the reg chip itself, adds stability 3. on-board driver transistor failure - usually open - easy replacement with any mid-power NPN
4. MOV shorts - a 99 cent part is not the best surge protection anyway
5. crow-bar vs. fold-back limiting - this is debatable - hopefully you fuse your loads properly and this never kicks in. Either method is appropriate depending on whether you're using the supply in a monitored/home environment or 50 miles away at a repeater site and can't reset it.

I would not use this supply in the BB battery backup mode or to float batteries. If you need to do this get a good 3-4-stage charger and battery isolator.

Additionally, I learned not quite the hard way that my rigs and mobile amp should not share the same supply. I found I was starving my Flex running my ALS-500M on the same supply. A separate 50A Astron runs the amp and the rigs run off another supply and battery backup.


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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:55:05 -0500
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The problems with Astron linear power supplies have been known for
years. However, they can be modified inexpensively to be a good unit.
Info is still available at http://www.w5bwcelectronics.com
<http://www.w5bwcelectronics.com/>.The needed board can be had from
http://farcircuits.net <http://farcircuits.net/>. A description of my
modifications is on http://madisondxclub.org under INTERESTS -> PROJECTS.

I thought those power supplies were far too valuable to junk out.

Ed, N9MW
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