On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 08:01, James Turner wrote:
> On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 03:12  pm, Martin Spott wrote:
> 
> > 3.) I know, you should not employ the flaps at 200 kts ....
> >     But if you do so, the aircraft climbs like attached to a high
> >     speed elevator  :-)
> 
> I've been flying the Fokker 100 quite a bit, and I've noticed similar 
> instabilities. Roughly (I am not a pilot)
> 
> - very rapid control response, especially on the roll axis). This  
> sometimes extends to a 'snap' condition where I command an aileron 
> reversal (okay, I just pull my joystick to the other side), and there 
> is a very prolonged period with no response (for example, 8 or 10 
> seconds, usually continuing the previous roll command) until the roll 
> suddenly flips over.
> 
> - a similar elevator effect to that martin described, when deploying 
> the flaps at high speeds
> - very odd high pitch angle behavior ... I can't really describe it, 
> alas. It seems like way too much lift is getting developed at high 
> angles of attack, without a corresponding increase in drag to slow the 
> aircraft.
> 
> Essentially, the aircraft flies pretty well (if a bit twitchy) 
> providing you stick to a 'good' flight regime, but handling 
> deteriorates exponentially when  I go even moderately beyond it. I'm 
> aware that part of this may be running 'past the end of the data' in 
> JSBsim, but other models do not seem to have these problems. Can this 
> be alleviated by tuning the last data point for various coefficients, 
> which I assume is what JSBsim extrapolates from?

Just for the record, JSBSim never extrapolates a table and always holds
last value.  In practice, this can have as bad an effect as
extrapolation, but at least we're not making up data as we go along.

> 
> (I was about to say the 747 is much more forgiving of my 80-degree 
> banks, but of course, it uses YASim).
> 
> Anyway, aside from the nit-picking, it's a lovely plane, at least until 
> we get an ERJ ;-)
> James
> 
> --
> There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'
> 
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