On 10/21/04 at 9:26 AM Chris Metzler wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:24:45 +0200
>Boris Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Chris Metzler wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > The "Urban Areas"/"T=4" dataset is fabulous, btw -- it goes down to
>> > 25cm resolution (TaxiDraw fetches 1 meter resolution images, it
>> > appears). I'd recommend just changing fetch.cpp to "T=4", and
getting
>> > the highest resolution images available; but not all areas are covered
>> > by the better dataset.  That's why I'm recommending tests -- try to
>> > fetch from the higher resolution dataset, and drop down to the
>> > lower-res one if the first fetch fails.
>>
>> LOL, sounds as if Chris has hacked terraserver.com to provide him with
>> their payware imagery for free ;-)
>
>Oh man, I don't know if I explained this well enough.
>
>The stuff on terraserver-usa.com (as opposed to terraserver.com -- same
>company, different website), including the images I fetched, are
>all free through the web interface.  Try it out with the browser of your
>choice; you'll see it all just by clicking on links.  Before,
>terraserer-usa only had one dataset of free aerial images.  Now they
>have a second, which improves coverage in U.S. urban areas.
>

Yes, to clarify, terraserver-usa.com IS NOT THE SAME SITE as
terraserver.com.

terraserver-usa.com includes the following copyright statement:

"The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) provides the Microsoft® TerraServer
site with images and maps of the United States. The images are in the
public domain, and are freely available for you to download, use and
re-distribute. If you download and use any images, the TerraServer team and
the USGS appreciate a reference to our work on this project."

The TaxiDraw website includes a thank-you to both USGS and Microsoft
Research, so we're following both the letter and the spirit of the law
here.  Terraserver-usa.com even includes a reference to a programming api
to interface to the site (but it's dot-net so I didn't use it), and at
least one other site has had an alternative front end to their images up
for several years now with no apparent problems.  TaxiDraw has absolutely
nothing whatsoever to do with terraserver.com, only terraserver-usa.com.
This is directed at others, not Chris, who obviously knows the score.

As Chris says, terraserver-usa.com now includes free colour USGS images to
many (I haven't checked this, just going on Chris' post) urban areas, which
include many airports.  These are presumably easier to work against and
more up-to-date than the b/w images.  When I coded TaxiDraw they only had
Seattle in colour, so I didn't bother adding support.  I will eventually
add support for these, but my current priority for the image code is to use
the cross-platform cURL library and work with the images in pieces as
downloaded (instead of tiling them with ImageMagick) so that Windows users
can also benefit from this.  Working with tiles should improve program
response when zoomed in on a small portion of the image as well.

I won't be including any support whatsoever for downloading images that
don't have an unequivocal copyright statement allowing unrestricted use of
the images similar to the above, have no fear of that.  I probably will put
some safeguards in the program to avoid downloading excessively large
areas, but for now I trust that users will use it responsibly!

Cheers - Dave



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