Jim Wilson wrote:

David Megginson said:



On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:35:53 +0100, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



1. The responsible person should be asked to *immediately* remove the
  offending religious content.

2. If he refuses (which the GPL lets him), he should not be given any
  further support. He should be banned from the mailing lists.

3. The project should note on the homepage that it is in no way
affiliated with and distances itself from any religious or other
propaganda that is distributed together with FlightGear.


Or alternatively, why not encourage free speech and send him several
pamphlets with alternative viewpoints to include in the same
distribution?  That may be enough to convince him to pull his own
without any threats.  I have a vague recollection of a Simpsons
episode where Springfield Elementary School decides or is forced to
teach creationism as well as evolution, and (evangelical Protestant
Christian) Rev. Lovejoy is furious when he finds out that his is only
one of many religions invited in to speak (I might be remembering it
wrong, though).




Maybe just a respectful, polite note asking for it to be removed would
suffice. I'd hate to be on the receiving end of this discussion.



Jim makes a good point. Some may argue that the developer in question could have chosen a better way to express his faith. But at the same time, I'm a little dismayed at the tone used by some of the other developers here to voice their objections.


Personally, for those with objections, I would have started with a letter directly to the developer explaining your perspective and why you think there should be a change. Well reasoned civil discourse can go a long way towards a solution, assuming we are all reasonable people here. :-)

We aren't going to start banning people from the mailing list. I can't tell people to check their religion at the door before they can participate in the FlightGear project. I can't tell a package maintainer what they can or cannot put in their package (assuming they havn't violated the GPL.) I do think that some people could stand to be a little more tolerant of other views. I think that enough other developers have made their point now, and have made their point clearly (although I think it would have been more civil to send a personal letter rather than post a rant on the mailing list.) So now it's up to the mac packager to take these points into consideration. If people aren't satisfied with the ultimate resolution, then you are by all means free to create an alternative mac package to which I will freely link from the downloads page.

Regards,

Curt.

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Curtis Olson        http://www.flightgear.org/~curt
HumanFIRST Program  http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/
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