On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:37 +0000, Lee Elliott wrote: > On Thursday 05 Jan 2006 22:46, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Martin Spott wrote: > > >Hello Durk, > > > > > >Durk Talsma wrote: > > >>I still haven't firmly decided how ATC should interact with > > >> AI traffic, but that these systems should be integrated has > > >> always been part of my overarching design plan. Since my AI > > >> developments are based on extending the AIModels code, this > > >> would naturally move toward a fully integrated system. > > > > > >To me it's obvious why MP and AI are partially going to be > > > merged some day, because both are 'exterior' sources of > > > aircraft movement from the FlightGear users' point of view. > > > If you think of integrating ATC with AI as well, then please > > > keep in mind that a special situation arises because we are > > > unlikely to convince AI aircraft to listen to 'human' ATC > > > :-) > > > > Also, who ever is developing and working on the MP and AI > > code: > > > > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, > > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, > > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, > > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! > > > > Please consider users with multiple display channels driven > > from multiple computeres synced together over the network. > > > > Nothing is more embarassing (well maybe I shouldn't say > > nothing) than demoing the new sim software on a 6 screen > > visual system flightgear based simulator and having 6 > > independent ATC/Tower communications sessions going (one on > > each screen) and then having different airplanes appear on one > > screen and not on any of the others. > > > > Please consider some way to replicate the MP/AI traffic across > > multiple visual channels, perhaps slave from one master > > machine that communicates with the outside MP server. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Curt. > > I was just wondering if pigeon's FG map web-site could be adapted > to function as a radar and had started to think about how it > might be nice to include AI traffic as well when the problem of > inconsistent AI aircraft that you mentioned above occurred to > me:)
My thoughts was to use the interface and code from air traffic controller (airtraf hereafter, I didn't want to re-use the acronym atc) (airtraffic.sf.net) for client. I don't believe that we want the atc server integrated into flightgear itself as the regional rules differ between countries and even perferred runway. I see it as airtraf-client optionally talks to airtraf-server which talks to fg-server and then to the appropriate users. Airtraf supposedly will function automatically when there are no human users connected. > Perhaps a possible solution would be for the MP server to > generate AI traffic and for local AI traffic to be switched off > when connected to an MP server. Better, might be for MP to be disabled if the player selects AI traffic. > > For the multi-system type set-up you're using for your 6 screen > configuration there would have to be some way of nominating one > of the systems to take on the MP AI role, with the remaining > systems treating it as an MP server. I'm not getting involved in this point as I feel I'm not suitably qualified. Anyway, I have emailed the project leader for his(??) opinion on the matter. If I get shouted down here, then so be it. :-P Regards ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
