On jeudi 11 décembre 2008, James Sleeman wrote: > gerard robin wrote: > > With the most realistic quality a model is never easy to fly, even the > > most simple aircraft, (if the FDM and cockpit are realistic). > > > > The best models which have the higher quality must be presented first ( > > and they won't never be "easy to fly"). > > Can I chime in and say I have to disagree there Gerard. > > Many aircraft would be (are) "easy to fly" in-real-life --- especially > if you don't care about how you treat the aircraft, or if you survive, > as you don't in a sim (not like you do in real life at least!). > SNIP > Is this because the aircraft is "unrealistically easy to fly", no I > don't think so, it's just that it IS easy to fly, when you disregard > realities of damage, injury, death and the inability to hit "restart" > and try again. > > Note well however that "fly" and "fly well" are two different things. > Is it easy to fly some aircraft, yes, is it easy to fly well in those > aircraft, no. Some aircraft on the other hand it is not easy to "fly" > or "fly well", they are just "hard" all over (see: helicopter) and a > large investment of time is required, both in real life and in sim, to > be able to just fly the aircraft with even a fleeting glimpse of > control, let alone fly it well. > > I have only very small experience and ability in real life flying > (money, time, etc etc etc), but even me with my exceptional clumsiness > managed to fly my first solo in real life, without damaging the > aircraft, with about 5 hours dual training.
What are we talking about ? You just said that you have had, in the real life to spend only 5 hours dual training ( which means somebody who explain and help you) to fly your first solo, in the cockpit of a real "easy to fly" aircraft. ===5 hours yes== (when i was young, 1962, on Stampe, which was a difficult aircraft, it tooks to me 10 hours, and that was the rule). Before answering to Durk, I have tried to understand what could be the definition of that "hard to fly" being used previously and i concluded that it wants, let's say, a least 4 hours (half of a working day) to understand how a very accurate model is done , how it can be used. Your definition => when if takes 5 hours that is easy to fly. So , now, i dare to conclude, that any Aircraft which are in the CVS today are "easy to fly" ( more or less, like my Blackbird which is very easy to fly since it has a non realistic idiot FDM). BTW: in that case, why do we remove the Concorde ? which is according to your definition very easy to fly. Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
