Thanks for the reply Lee,

Your comments all noted, especially with respect to stability, as opposed to
bleeding edge.

Thats fine with me as I have always been behind a release with Suse from 6
to 10 running machines as routers and servers over the last 10 years. Those
machines only ever rebooted when the power outage outlasted the ups. I
recall one uptime over 8 months. Something unheard of in the windows world I
guess.


And no problems with your comments the Flightgear again I build the
requirements like Simgear and osg from source anyway, and could see no
reason to update from SUSE 10.3 unless the Terramodel solution suited and
one of them droped a drive.

I was pretty happy the basics just ran on etch, although FG compiled with a
small audio bug.

I don't know much about Terragear because I have never succeeded in building
it. But i gather the CVS is a mix of mainly old with some new.

Are you running Terragear on your Debian machine?



Regards Harry



On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:40 PM, LeeE <l...@spatial.plus.com> wrote:

> Hello Harry,
>
> I've been a long-time user of Debian, in fact, it's the only
> distribution I've really used, so while I'm not qualified to
> comment on other distros I think I've learned some of the pros &
> cons of using Debian.
>
> I would say that Debian's greatest plus feature is the stability and
> consistency of it's stable releases, and I would say that it's
> greatest negative feature is a consequence of it's greatest plus
> feature; it will always be using dated, or older versions of
> software.
>
> This is fine if the older versions of software that end up in the
> Debian stable distros are sufficient for your needs or you are
> developing your own software and don't need or wish to
> use 'bleeding-edge' versions of development libraries and packages
> etc. to make your software work.  For something like FlightGear
> however, which largely requires the latest versions of quite a few
> other packages, it can be a problem.  For example, if you wish to
> keep up to date with FG development and work with the cvs version
> of FG you won't be able to use the version of OSG in etch but will
> have to get a later version from the OSG project and install it
> yourself, which may in turn require later versions of other
> packages too.  Now this may be ok if you don't use any other Debian
> packages that depend upon OSG but if you do you'll then hit
> dependency problems.  There are ways around this but they'll
> require some degree, and sometimes a lot, of extra work and
> housekeeping to keep everything working.  Incidentally, regarding
> OSG, I think the version that will end up in Lenny, which will soon
> become the next stable release (perhaps even this year - lol), will
> be OSG 2.4.0, which will still be too old for the current release
> version of FG.  It also looks like the Debian version of FG that
> will be released with Lenny is 1.0.0.
>
> You could try using Debian's unstable distro but you need to be
> aware that it's a constantly moving target where dependencies are
> frequently broken.  You really need a testing system if you're
> going to run unstable, to test updates before you roll them out to
> the machines you depend upon to work.  You also really need to
> maintain your own partial mirror too, if you want to keep several
> systems in step because it's likely that there will have been
> further updates between the time you finish testing one set of
> updates and then start rolling them out to your other machines.
>
> Debian's testing distro varies a lot depending on the current point
> in the Debian release cycle.  Around now, where Lenny has largely
> been frozen and where the current focus is on bug-squashing and
> final testing, it is very stable, but once it's actually been
> promoted and released as the new stable, testing will become very
> unstable and sometimes even less stable than unstable (speaking
> from experience) until it too is frozen.
>
> So perhaps for something like FG, Ubuntu might be a better bet, as
> it's based more on unstable than stable, with new versions of
> software being brought forward much more quickly than with Debian.
>
> LeeE
>
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