The radio alt antennas point vertically downward.

Just as pitch angle affects the displayed RA, so does bank angle. This
effect increases with bank/pitch angle --- you can work out the
trigonometry easily.

RA is calibrated to read 0 at main gear touchdown (nose up pitch angle
perhaps 5 to 8 degrees). When nose gear touches down, the RA would
read some -6 feet. With a heavily loaded jet (greater gear strut
compression), the RA reads -8 feet.

On 15/07/2010, Thorsten <bre...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Victhor wrote:
>> Em Dom, 2010-07-11 Ã s 18:33 +0200, Thorsten escreveu:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've been working on some smaller issues with the Ground Proximity
>> > Warning System. Is someone currently maintaining or actively working
>> > on the mk-viii module, or is any help wanted?
>> >
>> > * The "Bank angle!" warning wasn't working. It's because the module
>> > reads the planes angle from
>> >     /instrumentation/attitude-indicator/indicated-roll-deg
>> > However, with the planes I have tested (B737, B747, B777, A380) this
>> > value is never updated (value is constant at 40 degrees). This
>> > sometimes triggers an incorrect "Bank angle!" warning (at lower
>> > heights, where 40 degrees is outside the allowed range). Changing the
>> > input property to
>> >     /orientation/roll-deg
>> > made the feature work for me. I'm not familiar with this attitude
>> > indicator. Is anything broken so the property above isn't updated? Or
>> > could we just change the module's input property? Alternatively, a
>> > configuration property could be added, so the location of the input
>> > property isn't hard-wired in the sources and could be configured for
>> > every plane...
>> This instrument needs vacuum to work, as in piston powered GA aircraft
>> and some others. /systems/vacuum/suction-inhg is what you're looking
>> for. A vacuum pump RPM source can be defined in case you want the pump
>> to be powered by something other than /engines/engine/rpm, however I
>> don't know where to find this. IIRC the Citation X uses this, it's no
>> nasal.
>
> Ok, I'll also give this a try. But I could still try to make this input
> source configurable. Those who like modelling all the details can then
> select the output of this vaccuum driven device. But to me it seems not
> every plane developer goes to this detail. And in this case they could
> still get this module to work properly by using the input from
> /orientation/roll-deg, e.g. as the module's default input source, since
> it always seems to provide valid data. And the module is already reading
> other data from such general sources (e.g. altitude from /position/...
> see below). Does an option to configure the input source make any
> sense? I'm new to FlightGear though...
>
>> > "A properly calibrated radio altimeter indicates zero feet at the
>> > moment the aircraft contacts ground. This requires taking into account
>> > the height of the antennas above ground (at touchdown) [...] After
>> > touchdown, the weight of the aircraft may cause the radio altimeter to
>> > read slightly below ground level".
>> > So I guess the radio altimeter isn't perfectly accurate right now - or
>> > are there already configuration settings to tune/adapt the altimeter
>> > to a specific plane? Maybe that's where the problem is...
>> The "radio-altimeter" instrument never worked properly with me, it has
>> considerable lag. Radar altimeter instruments in FG are instead driven by
>> /position/altitude-agl-ft, which updates in real time.
>
> You're right, the mk-viii module is directly reading
> /position/altitude-agl-ft. I have changed this to /position/gear-agl-ft
> - and it certainly is the gear that matters on touchdown... When using
> this property the altitude callouts seem really precise to me -
> including the 10ft callout moments before touchdown. Anyone knows
> details on gear-agl-ft? Could we just change the mk-viii's input source
> to this property, or are there objections / reasons why altitude-agl-ft
> still is a better source?
> And maybe the HUD could also use gear-agl-ft as its source - instead of
> showing 15ft agl when taxiing...?
>
> I'll be working bit on some of the EGPWS issues and then also try to
> update the wiki page with some more information. For example there are
> already configuration options in the module to disable specific warnings
> in case they don't apply to a specific type of plane...
>
> Thorsten
>
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