On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Bertrand Coconnier <bcoco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/6/17 Gary Neely <grne...@gmail.com>:
>> I've always understood actionpt to be the location where thrust should
>> be applied with respect to the airframe. For a propeller-driven
>> engine, I use the approximate location of the main thrust bearing. For
>> a jet, I reckon it depends on the type of jet and the degree of
>> bypass. An older jet engine develops its thrust from the exhaust
>> chamber region. Modern engines with high bypass ratios develop more of
>> their thrust from the fan, so the action point would likely move
>> forward closer to where the main thrust bearings of the fan are
>> located within the engine. I'm not an engine expert by any means, but
>> these are the assumptions I've used.
>
> Moving the point of action of a force along the line of action of the
> aforementioned force does not change the moment.
>
> Since the thrust line of action is almost parallel to the
> turbine/propeller/fan shaft, moving the point of action from the fan
> bearing to the exhaust region will only marginally change the
> resulting moment. So my advice FWIW is to not bother about that.
>
> Bertrand.


I agree, with reservations. Some engines, for instance some
turboprops, have thrust bearings significantly offset from the
engine/prop mass. Perhaps that's trivial in most cases, but in my
opinion if the designer has good information on where an actionpt
would reside, it makes sense to use that information. Working toward
fidelity is part of the fun of this stuff.

-Gary

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