Hi Curt, Ok, version 04 zip nailed it exactly ;=))))
Now it circles PERFECTLY... I can see in Atlas that each circle exactly overlays the last... I have not yet tried adding TURBULENCE and WINDS but will... Holding exactly 150@2000, the HUD bank-o-meter seldom gets beyond the 3rd marking - that is the first big mark... I added multiplayer, but have not run across any others out there yet... This verified what I have suspected for quite a while, that the mpmap calculation of the aircraft speed is wildly erratic, showing values from 87kts to over 200kts... but I understand this is only an estimate based on current and last position over time... It is a shame the carrier, attendant boat and helicopter do not appear on multiplayer ;=() so just circling blue water... And so far, each 'gohome' has been spot on ;=)) As smooth as a babies bum... I would say, from my perspective, this bumps the demo from Alpha, to Beta or BETTER ;=)) Regards, Geoff. PS: OT: Very neat 'obscurification' of the nasal, with seemingly random generated variable names on each version... fascinating ;=() Some facts - Now I have SMOOTH graphs :- http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-03-graph.jpg Look at the accurate circling :- http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-03-track.jpg And the data to load into Atlas :- http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-atlas-03.txt Or to playback in fgfs (10MB) :- http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-03.csv Even the script I use to run the demo - http://geoffair.org/tmp/run_f14b.sh Of course it has to be ADJUSTED to suit your environment, AND uses my run_fgfs.sh to run fgfs... g. On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 17:10 -0500, Curtis Olson wrote: > Hi Geoff (and Arnt, et. al.) > > I have another update to try. This one drives the roll angle by > manipulating the ailerons directly, rather than trying to > modify /controls/flight/SAS-roll. SAS-roll worked for me, and I was > just following the example of the existing f-14b dg-heading > controller. But driving /control/flight/aileron seems to work just as > well for me. If there is some sort of order of execution problem with > nasal or something conflicting with SAS-roll, perhaps this will work > better? I'd be interested in hearing if it helps if anyone gets a > chance to try it. > > > Download link for "Alpha04" version and instructions here: > > > http://www.flightgear.org/uas-demo/ > > > Curt. > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:54:05 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20110924125405.072bc...@nb6.lan>: > > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:06:00 -0500, Curtis wrote in message > > > <CAHtsj_c=qrUGW4=F9PfEMoDGfgdC2yZVK77pp3gE3P=tbjr...@mail.gmail.com>: > > > > > Here's one for your guys. Do any nasal errors pop up on > the console > > > when things go bad? Are you able to manually fly the > f-14b (non-uas > > > version) around just fine? > > > ..yup, even on the eeepc keyboard, one up tap elevator, full > power, let > it roll and wait out the rotation, 2 down taps on the elevator > to keep > the nose down to 15 to 30 degrees, gets it "safely" up at 1-2 > fps. > > > > Once in maybe 20-50 flights I do see something go goofy > with the > > > f-14b stability augmentation's roll control. Maybe this > same issue > > > is popping up less rarely for some people? I haven't dug > into how > > > the SAS is implemented on the f-14b ... it's intricately > woven I can > > > tell ... maybe there's something lurking down in the guts > of the > > > f-14b SAS. > > > ..or your settings. > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Arnt Karlsen > <a...@c2i.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:44:02 +0200, Citronnier wrote in > message > > > > <4e7cfda2.7060...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > Le 23/09/2011 23:12, Curtis Olson a écrit : > > > > > > Geoff and Arnt and anyone else who is interested. I > just > > > > > > updated the zip file overlay with a few changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Geoff: you may be getting tired of being a bunny, > but I played > > > > > > around with the roll controller and limited max > target roll > > > > > > angle to +/-35 degrees. I also dialed down the > gains a bit on > > > > > > final approach which will hopefully slow down the > wild swings. > > > > > > More adjustment may be necessary, but I'd be > interested in > > > > > > hearing if any of this helps your situation. > > > > > > > > ..a wee bit, now takes off and makes it ~1000 feet up, > then it > > > > rolls to the right and makes it ~200 feet into the > drink, and > > > > repeats the stunt seated in the cockpit (rather than in > the > > > > camera), uncommanded on Reset button pushes. > > > > > > > > ..it's trying to orbit the carrier in the vertical > plane? > > > > > > > > ..trying the operator click mode on targets like the > merchantman > > > > near the Nimitz, works, until the demo is airborne, then > it picks > > > > the Carrier target and tries a vertical orbit around it. > > > > > > > > ..refetching the merchantman with the operator mouse > click mode, > > > > dives the demo into the drink between the 2 vessels. > > > > > > > > ..debug idea for Curtis: try the Nimitz too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also set the default carrier speed to zero so if > we get a > > > > > > few people out there playing around with this, we > should be > > > > > > able to see each other via MP. That could be an > additional > > > > > > fun element. I was just out there dodging XIII who > trailed me > > > > > > around the pattern and let me live thankfully. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the link with the zip file overlay download > + > > > > > > installation and operation instructions: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org/uas-demo/ > > > > > > > > > > > > MP Call Sign: Shrike :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Woot :-) so I missed the update, I just read this post > after > > > > > posting the previous one. And was wondering who was > flying > > > > > around there ! Model view ought to be interesting in > case of > > > > > one other tester just encounter problems. > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > Alexis > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe see a few of you out there? > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Citronnier - Alexis > Bory > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 23/09/2011 16:47, Curtis Olson a écrit : > > > > > > > Hi Geoff, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm starting to run low on ideas here. I > assume you > > > > > > > don't have any crazy/severe turbulence turned > on or > > > > > > > your plots would be all > > > > > > over the > > > > > > > place. Are you running out of fuel and your > engines > > > > > > > dying? If you open the autopilot dialog (F11) > you can > > > > > > > see the target speed and if you have the hud > turned on > > > > > > > you can see the actual speed in any view. If > you are > > > > > > > circling with a target speed of 150 and your > airspeed > > > > > > > is less than than and you are decending, then > > > > > > > definitely check your engine output. There is > a fuel > > > > > > > dialog box under the f-14b menu and you might > double > > > > > > > check that to see if you have any fuel in your > > > > > > tanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I'm rock solid in > circling and the > > > > > > > only time I have ever stalled out of the sky > or really > > > > > > > got out of kilter is when I've had severe > turbulence > > > > > > > turned on. Moderate turbulence at all levels > is actually > > > > > > > pretty interesting because despite getting > thrown all > > > > > > > over the sky, I still hit the carrier deck > pretty spot > > > > > > > on > > > > > > every time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still no tests yet but just a though, In normal > use > > > > > > (without the UAV script) I know that after TO (flaps > down) > > > > > > you have to rise the flaps in > > > > > > before engaging the attitude autopilot mode. If > you rise > > > > > > the flaps after > > > > > > engaging attitude autopilot mode, the a/c start > to pitch > > > > > > up consistently. This has to be documented or fixed. > I'll try > > > > > > to bring the > > > > > > maintainer to his workstation ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Geoff McLane > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Curt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, removed my joystick, and entered a > '5', but > > > > > > > still crashed while just in 'circle' mode > - no route > > > > > > > entered ;=(( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual Atlas provides a good 'view' as > to > > > > > > > what happened - added - > > > > > > > ATLAS="--atlas=socket,out,<IP>,5500,udp" > > > > > > > to output to Atlas running in a 2nd > machine... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See - > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-01.jpg > > > > > > > for a graph of the flight... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The two blips in the graphs show the first > stall, > > > > > > > but it recovers and begins to climb back, > and the > > > > > > > 2nd the second stall, this time too low to > recover, > > > > > > > so into the drink ;=(( CRASH! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a view of the 'crazy' flight track > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-02.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously the pig-tail loops are the > 'stalls'... > > > > > > > remember with NO joystick attached and > starting > > > > > > > with centered controls (NumPad 5)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if you want to load this track into > Atlas, or > > > > > > > further study speeds, etc, then this is > the > > > > > > > Atlas track data :- > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-01.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then on the NEXT flight I tried :- > > > > > > > > IO="--generic=file,out,10,uas-02.csv,playback" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I added a header line, to help > analyze > > > > > > > it in say an OpenOffice spreadsheet import > - > > > > > > > see - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-02.csv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On this 2nd flight, this crash took > longer, since > > > > > > > it (randomly) turned left first, where as > mentioned > > > > > > > it holds more stable, but then eventually > went into > > > > > > > a right turn, stalled, recovered, stalled > again, and > > > > > > > CRASHED... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And as you know well, downloading this > file, and > > > > > > > using say - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $ ./fgfs --fg-root=/point/to/fgfs/data > > > > > > > --timeofday=noon \ --aircraft=f-14b-uas > > > > > > > --carrier=Vinson \ > > > > > > > --generic=file,in,10,uas-02.csv,playback > --fdm=external > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you too can enjoy this fateful flight ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 'chase' view, you can clearly see the > right roll > > > > > > > increase, the nose coming up, and the > stall, > > > > > > > recovery, then repeated, and BANG, into the > water... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is difficult to work on, debug, > fix > > > > > > > something that obviously does not happen > in your > > > > > > > case... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe if you do not enter any route, or > something... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is all with SG/FG git of > 2011-09-14... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 14:00 -0500, Curtis > Olson > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Geoff > McLane wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Curt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pleasure, and FUN ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I know a low frame rate can > play havoc > > > > > > > > when you are trying to fine control an > aircraft from > > > > > > > > its attitude feedback, and I should > have > > > > > > > > mentioned my rate, but is always in the high > 50-70 fps > > > > > > > > range in this Ubuntu machine... so should > NOT be a > > > > > > > > factor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, 50-70 should be perfect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just did another few runs, and > this time it > > > > > > > > crashed just while circling... it was in a > right bank, > > > > > > > > which got too much and the nose came up, and > it > > > > > > > > stalled... I am mostly in the 'chase' > view... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is really strange. I have seen nothing > like this > > > > > > > > except > > > > > > when I > > > > > > > > inadvertantly applied external control > inputs through > > > > > > > > a strange combination of linux virtual > desktops and > > > > > > > > flightgear capturing the hotkey to come back > to the > > > > > > > > FlightGear virtual desktop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So two thoughts here. If you have a > joystick > > > > > > > > connected, could > > > > > > > you try > > > > > > > > unplugging it to see if that helps? Could > you also > > > > > > > > press "5" > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > numeric keypad to make sure all the flight > control > > > > > > > > inputs are centered. Because of the way the > F-14b FCS > > > > > > > > is wired together in combination with the > yasim flight > > > > > > > > surfaces, you can still input elevator and > aileron and > > > > > > > > trim and cause conflicts that you > > > > > > might not > > > > > > > > see in other simpler aircraft that use > aileron and > > > > > > > > elevator > > > > > > > directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first time this happened at 2000 > feet, it > > > > > > > > caught itself - leveled a bit and bumped the > > > > > > > > throttles, and began climbing back... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a little later, 20-30 secs, it > happened > > > > > > > > again, and this time was still too low to > recover, and > > > > > > > > SPLASH... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had not previously let it fly in > the > > > > > > > > 'circle' mode for too long, but now note if > I leave > > > > > > > > it in circling mode, it will eventually end > up in the > > > > > > > > water... seldom lasts more than 5 or 10 > minutes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be deliberately holding > its speed > > > > > > > > down around 150 - I see air-brakes come up > when > > > > > > > > greater than this, and throttle back - and > although > > > > > > > > flaps (I think full flap?) are still > applied, 150 must > > > > > > > > be quite 'low' for this sleek bird... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Normal landing approach in the real aircraft > I believe > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > about 120 > > > > > > > > kts? I fly 135 kt approaches in the > simulator. It > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > hold 150 kts with the flaps down pretty > easily. The > > > > > > > > point of > > > > > > > slowing > > > > > > > > way down when circling is to keep the circle > radius > > > > > > > > small > > > > > > enough so > > > > > > > > you can see what you are looking at. If you > fly the > > > > > > > > circle at 600 kts, your radius will be 20 > miles (just > > > > > > > > guessing) :-) and you > > > > > > > won't be > > > > > > > > able to see anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I am not sure how many degrees > each > > > > > > > > marking on the hud bottom bank indicator > represents, > > > > > > > > and while it starts the banking in between > the 1 and > > > > > > > > 2 of the 'big' > > > > > > > marks, > > > > > > > > at the stall point it is beyond the > 2nd big > > > > > > > > mark, > > > > > > > approaching, > > > > > > > > even reaching the 3rd big mark, > which is on > > > > > > > > the horizontal - ie 90 degrees! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the moment of stall it loses > 1200-1400 feet > > > > > > > > in 1-3 seconds... while it can happen in a > right or > > > > > > > > left turn, it does seem to happen quicker in > a right > > > > > > > > turn... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now understand the 'reset' is a > full sim > > > > > > > > reset, but that is not too helpful if you > have set up > > > > > > > > say a particular weather, wind or something > that you > > > > > > > > want to repeat... must get around to feeding > that in, > > > > > > > > in the command, so a reset puts it back (I > hope)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well complain to the developers if a "reset" > resets > > > > > > > > too agressively. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you could describe a bit more > where some of > > > > > > > > this is decided/calculated I too could try > tweaking > > > > > > > > some values... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would probably bump the speed a > little, and > > > > > > > > really watch the bank angle... those stubby > little > > > > > > > > wings do not give much lift anyway, but the > slender > > > > > > > > body gives close to none ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned, I too have more than a > passing > > > > > > > > interest in automated flight control... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: OT: I too searched a little for > the > > > > > > > > expression to be a 'bunny', but could not > really find > > > > > > > > anything ;=(( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure it comes from my > Australian origin, > > > > > > > > and has the meaning to take the rap, take > the > > > > > > > > medicine, sort of to be the guinea pig... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I can understand that. Here we test > cosmetics on > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > bunnies > > > > > > > > (so I'm told) but I'm sure we have to shave > all their > > > > > > > > hair off > > > > > > > first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why poor little bunny rabbits > feature I just > > > > > > > > do not know ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe from when Australia had a big > war on > > > > > > > > rabbits _MANY_ years ago, and put > out millions > > > > > > > > of traps for the bunnies, as well as > other > > > > > > > > methods, like poisons - myxomatosis... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to be a bunny was to be > trapped ;=(()) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe other Australian's have a > better memory > > > > > > > > than me, and can explain it better, but > meantime I > > > > > > > > will blame my parents, or the Australian > educational > > > > > > > > system, for giving me such a stupid > expression ;=() > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On reading up on 'to be a Guinea > Pig', another > > > > > > > > very confusing expression - not > really a 'pig' > > > > > > > > and not from Guinea! - I found a reference > that in > > > > > > > > Johnston's Natural History, they go by the > name > > > > > > > > Spanish Coney. And 'coney' was the old name > for a > > > > > > > > rabbit, a bunny... Huh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Peru Guinea Pig is a delicacy ... cui ... > never had > > > > > > > > it myself > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > I'm aware of. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the early immigrants to > Australia > > > > > > > > decided to mix it up even more! ;=)) Or got > it > > > > > > > > confused on the long boat ride half way > around the > > > > > > > > world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well just to summarize, if your frame rates > are solid > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > 30-60+ > > > > > > > > range, then the next thing I'm wondering > about is a > > > > > > > > joystick or > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > means of extraneous control inputs that > could be > > > > > > > > confusing the > > > > > > F-14b > > > > > > > > AFCS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - > http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > > > > > > > > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT > infrastructure > > > > > > > is seriously valuable. > > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of > application > > > > > > > performance, security > > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. > Splunk takes > > > > > > > this > > > > > > data and > > > > > > > makes > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - > http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > > > > > > > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT > infrastructure is > > > > > > > seriously > > > > > > valuable. > > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of > application > > > > > > > performance, > > > > > > security > > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk > takes > > > > > > > this data > > > > > > and makes > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT > infrastructure is > > > > > > seriously valuable. > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of > application > > > > > > performance, security > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk > takes this > > > > > > data and makes > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure > is > > > > > > seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive > record of > > > > > > application performance, security threats, > fraudulent > > > > > > activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of > > > > > > it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > seriously > > > > > valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of > application > > > > > performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, > and more. > > > > > Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT > sense. And > > > > > common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > seriously > > > > valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of > application > > > > performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and > more. > > > > Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. > And common > > > > sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application > performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data > and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > -- > Curtis Olson: > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
