This is an interesting problem. I've noted it. I may file a bug report at the 
JSBSim using
the Bug tracker there. It seems like a possible JSBSim bug, no?

Jon


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dene
> Maxwell
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Flightgear-users] Aircraft crashes unexpectedly...too hard or
> notinterested
>
>
> Haven't received a response..... too hard or not interested?
> Dene
>
>
> Last month I posted this and got alot of comments back.
>
> I've experimented and have some extra information which may shed some light
> on the problem;
>
> I undertook this trip in the 172P Skyhawk (1981 model), 2D panel, a mammoth
> trip. I encountered the same sort of behaviour at varying intervals (about 2
> hours) into the flight but because of either; better recovery charateristics
> or lower ground speed the autopilot was able to recover and continue. This
> enabled me to switch windows to the FGFS MSDOS window which I was unable to
> do once the aircraft had hit the ground with in either of the two previous
> aircraft tried. The FGFS window had these error messages.
>
> These occurred over a period of about 4-5 hours until I quit the flight due
> to running out of fuel!!!!
>
> Failed to untie property propulsion/c-thrust[0]
> Failed to untie property propulsion/engine[0]/reverser-angle
> Failed to untie property propulsion/c-thrust[0]
> Failed to untie property propulsion/engine[0]/reverser-angle
>
> Failed to untie property propulsion/c-thrust[0]
> Failed to untie property propulsion/engine[0]/reverser-angle
> Failed to untie property propulsion/c-thrust[0]
> Failed to untie property propulsion/engine[0]/reverser-angle
>
> Does this help explain the problem?
>
> Dene
>
> On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 22:15 +1300, Dene Maxwell wrote:
> > Just an observation that may be of interest;
> >
> > I can fly approx 1500Nm over water at 300kts and not have a problem...
> > reasonable graphics and even land successfully (any landing you can
> > walk away from is a good landing!!!).
> >
> > I can't fly approx 400Nm at 300kts over land without the aircraft
> > crashing about 300Nm into the flight.
> >
> > Some background
> > NZWN (Wellington International,NZ) to YSSY (Sydney-Kingsford-Smith,
> > Australia) 1484NM in a A10 Thunderbolt at 300kts cruise... flight goes
> > great.
> >
> > YSSY (Sydney- Kingsford-Smith, Australia to YBBN (Brisbane
> > International, Australia) 410NM in either an A10 Thunderbolt at
> > 300kts or Cessna 310 twin prop at 180kts crashes at about the 300NM
> > mark.
> >
> > Interestingly I can fly the A10 from YSSY out to sea, then due north
> > to parallel to YBBN then line up for a landing no problems, total trip
> > is about 500NM.
> >
> > The problem seems to be triggered by flying over land for a prolonged
> > period. In all cases the majority of the flight is undertaken under
> > AutoPilot control at variably 5,000 to 10,000 ft ASL.
> >
> > I have tried reducing the screen resolution from 1280x1024 to 800x600
> > but it makes no difference.
> >
> > The platform is a 1.8Ghz P4, Windows Me, 256M RAM, nVidia GeForce2
> > MX/MX400 video card (32Mbyte).
> >
> > Any comments would be gratefully received.
> >
>
> Dene,
>
> You didn't say which version of FlightGear you are using.
>
> Using Flightgear CVS, I flew from NZWN to YSSY as you suggested and
> apart from noting a missing tile (known bug usually due to an airport
> lying across a tile boundary) I didn't have any problems.
>
> YSSY to YBBN:
> I started flown this route and 300nm out from YBBN , I'm still flying.
> 300nm from YSSY, still here... Preparing to land at YBBN... Not the best
> landing but still down in one piece.
>
> A couple of possibilities
> The mostly likely cause is that you have found a bug in 0.9.8.
> FlightGear 0.9.8 has a few major bugs here and there. Solution: You can
> either upgrade to CVS (a tricky task under windows which involved
> installing cygwin) or wait for version 0.9.9.
>
> The other (albeit unlikely) possible is that it is something in your
> hardware or software set up.
>
> Could someone with similar hardware and OS comment on this cross country
> flight? My hardware doesn't match what Dene is using. (I am still
> thinking that the problem was to do with a 0.9.8 bug)
>
> George Patterson
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