On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:24:52AM -0700, Mike Hunter scratched on the wall:
> On Aug 05, "Andrew Craick" wrote:
> 
> > We're running a flow-stat -f32 -n -S3 and the output is displayed in 
> > Octects. Can somone confirm that  octects definetly equals bytes in this 
> > situation. If so,  if i wanted to convert 41525421960 octets into Gigabytes 
> > i would get 38.6 Gbytes.  ((41525421960 / 1024)/1024)/1024 = 38.6 Gigbytes.
> 
> Looks good to me.  "Octets" is what the networking community uses to refer
> to 8-bit bytes.  I suspect that this came about when some architecture
> people started talking about 16 bit bytes for fancy 16 bit processors, but
> that usage has died off and I've never heard anybody intentionally say
> that their byte has something other than 8 bits.

  Actually, it dates back to the very early days of networking when
  eight-bit bytes were not a hard and solid standard like they are today.
  "Byte" was a somewhat arbitrary base unit of memory that was
  hardware/processor dependent (although many machines back then didn't
  have "processors," but rather board and boards of explicit logic
  circuits); there were 8-bit/byte machines, as well as 10 and even 13 bit
  machines.  The exact size was often determined by the physical size
  of the computers, and the amount of transistors and/or core-memory
  modules they could fit into a given space.

  Since networking systems had to inter-operate with all of these
  different types of systems, you'll commonly see networking items
  defined in "octets," which is quite specific about being an
  eight-bit byte.

  These days, of course, you'd be hard pressed to find a machine that
  didn't use eight-bit bytes, but the term remains strong in most
  networking standards and documentation.

> My Freshman CS Professor referred once to a "nibble"...4 bits!  :)

  That's pretty standard, although not very common, usage.

   -j

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                     Jay A. Kreibich | CommTech, Emrg Net Tech Svcs
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