----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Ravin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: jay alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 11:55:04 AM
Subject: Re: Illegal Attempt to update using time...(Re: No graphs created 
after flow-capturing a month)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 07:28:53PM -0800, jay alvarez wrote:


>   >    And it was a chain reaction... all flows being processed since Dec 1,
>   >    2006 5:30PM up to present keeps on (or most of the time) throwing the
>   >    same error, resulting to empty badly needed graphs. :-(

>   Is it the same error message with the same "last update time" value, on
>   all subsequent messages?  If not, what's there?

ft-v05.2006-12-01.175500+0800 is good,
same as with:
ft-v05.2006-12-01.180000+0800 upto 1815.

Then the error appears again while attempting to process 1820 flow:
 using 1164967500 (Fri Dec  1 18:05:00) when last update time 1164967800 (Fri 
Dec  1 18:10:00)

Then 1825 is good and also 1830.

Then an error again on 1835:
using 1164968400 (Fri Dec  1 18:20:00) when last update time Fri (Dec  1 
18:30:00)

1840 to 1905 is also good.

Then 1910 is bad. (Fri Dec  1 18:55:00 / Fri Dec  1 19:05:00)
1915 to 2035 are good.
2040 bad. (Fri Dec  1 20:30:00/  Fri Dec  1 20:35:00)
2045 to 2135 are good.
2140 bad.
2145 to 2200 are good.
2205 to 2215 bad.
2220 to 2250 good.
...

Any idea what can we conclude with this?

>   Run the "flow-header" command on a flow file to see the timestamps of
>   the data within.  That might shed some light on things.


Running flow-header on a good flow let's say 1915 gives me:
#
# mode:                 normal
# capture start:        Fri Dec  1 19:15:00 2006
# capture end:          Fri Dec  1 19:20:00 2006
# capture period:       300 seconds
# compress:             on
# byte order:           little
# stream version:       3
# export version:       5
# lost flows:           58
# corrupt packets:      0
# sequencer resets:     0
# capture flows:        163753

while on a bad flow, say 2040 gives me:
flow-header < /var/netflow/ft/all/ft-v05.2006-12-01.204000+0800
#
# mode:                 normal
# capture start:        Fri Dec  1 20:40:00 2006
# capture end:          Fri Dec  1 20:45:00 2006
# capture period:       300 seconds
# compress:             on
# byte order:           little
# stream version:       3
# export version:       5
# lost flows:           0
# corrupt packets:      0
# sequencer resets:     0
# capture flows:        163000

What does this tell?


>   It would be a good idea to make sure your router and collector host
>   are both synchronized to the correct time.  Turn NTP on in your router
>   if it's not already there, and make sure the timezones are also in
>   agreement.

Yep, they were already configured them to do so long time ago. But I will have 
to check on this.


>   Also, do some web searching if you haven't already, especially on the
>   FlowScan list - this problem sounds very familiar.

Just bumped into this:
https://www1.columbia.edu/sec/bboard/mj/cuflow-users/archive/2003_07/msg00019.html

but his case was different, having last update time same as the one he is 
trying to add..

Also this one:
https://www1.columbia.edu/sec/bboard/mj/cuflow-users/archive/2005_08/msg00004.html

Not a problem of machine lagging behind..
Cflow::find only takes 15 wallclock secs on the average..

Neither a case of disappearing flows..

I don't know where else to look into. I'll try raising this issue to flowscan 
and CUFlow list and see if I can get something useful. Then I'll get back to 
this list for the rest of new users to have a reference if in case they 
encounter the same problem in the future..


Thanks.











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