Sure. A progress bar is a form of status. It inherits properties from
status bar.

From that perspective you could consider it live but you don't have to
explicitly set live properties. By default the AT knows these live areas
are changing but you do not have to set any live properties on them as they
have an assumed default behavior which is polite. An screen reader can
ignore the status of each unless the user does something special like
say ... announce changes to each form of status.

Make sense?

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review  Board
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Thanks Rich,
Can you help clarify a couple of muddy points then?
This map is points progressbar having a parent role of "status" :
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/rdf_model.png.
as does this document:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#progressbar

but like you said the link below only says "status" is a related role, with
"widget" being the parent... the answer is probably straightforward but I'm
a little lost :-\
Thanks
Jacob


All I could gather from this was that progressbar >>

Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:


      Hi Jacob,

      You don't need to set live attributes on a status bar. The ATs know
      how to deal with progressbars. A progress bar is not a region it is a
      widget. You don't need to worry about busy either.

      You need to support valuemax, valuemin, and and valuenow.
      http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/#progressbar
      For any range object you need to provide these values. max annd min
      are not effective without knowing the current value. An AT often
      needs to announce the current progress which cannot be computed
      without the current value.

      Cheers,

      Rich




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      Hi Everyone,
      I've been putting together some specs for semantic progress bars,
      specifically for the Uploader. I've been trying to wrap my head
      around
      the ARIA specs re: this patricular live region, and this is what I
      got
      as a starting point (as outlined in the JIRA key FLUID-983)

      Static attributes:
      • role = progressbar
      • valuemax = 100
      • valuemin = 0
      • live = assertive

      Dynamic attributes:
      • valuenow (number)
      • busy (boolean)

      So far, we've had some good JAWS feedback in FF as it reads out the
      valuenow attribute appropriately, but what I was wondering is can we
      put
      an actual phrase in the attribute?
      (㧥http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#valuenow says no,
      but
      is this for certain?)
      Jacob

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