On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Michael S Elledge wrote: > Maybe we should put together a table that summarizes the keys, > commands and functionality for the Fluid components? Having this information in one place sounds like a great idea. I'll create a jira task so it can be in the mix of priorities.
-Daphne > > > Mike > > > Jonathan Hung wrote: >> As far as I know, there's no way of detecting whether or not a >> certain AT is being run. If this were possible, we wouldn't have to >> try to figure out good key combinations that work with major ATs >> like WindowEyes and JAWS. >> >> This is why we have to mention both instructions (CTRL+Direction >> key, and CTRL+J/I/K/M) since we don't know if a user is using an AT >> or not. >> >> Your #3 point is very good. I think the instructions should be >> easily and quickly accessible to the user. I'm a big fan of >> instructions or help mode especially for AT users who don't >> necessarily have the visual cues to deduce functionality. We should >> probably check to see that all our other components have similar >> help text / instructions easily accessible to an AT like JAWS. >> >> - Jonathan. >> >> --- >> Jonathan Hung / [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> University of Toronto - ATRC >> Tel: (416) 946-3002 >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL >> PROTECTED] >> >> wrote: >> >> I'm still very new to using Jaws. I'm trying to learn and >> understand >> not only how the software works, but how a typical user would >> make use >> of it. >> >> I was testing it on the generic lightbox example >> >> (http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/reorderer/generic-lightbox/generic-lightbox.html >> ) and a few things came to mind. >> >> 1) you need to turn Browse Mode off to use keyboard drag and >> drop, >> this isn't in the keyboard instructions. >> >> 2) For Jaws the 'ctrl + a direction key" movement doesn't work >> properly, yet it is still mentioned to the user. >> >> 3) The user has to perform an additional tab after hearing the >> instructions, in order to perform drag and drop, but isn't told >> this. >> >> Would it be possible to change the instructions so that the person >> using jaws does not hear the written instructions, but a specific >> message that includes the necessary information (as mentioned in >> the >> points above)? >> >> Would a typical Jaws user need these instructions (points above)? >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Justin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fluid-work mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fluid-work mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work >> > <elledge.vcf>_______________________________________________ > fluid-work mailing list > [email protected] > http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work Daphne Ogle Senior Interaction Designer University of California, Berkeley Educational Technology Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell (510)847-0308 _______________________________________________ fluid-work mailing list [email protected] http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work
