I'm not sure I understand the issue around only having people who have file 
CLAs updating documentation. Anyone can create anything they want on a wiki. 
However, I would recommend against having formal documentation on the wiki for 
exactly that reason.

Is there a reason not to use the Maven site plugin and generate documentation 
on the web site?  I also have no problem with recommending the use of a CMS.

Ralph

On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Tom White wrote:

> I agree with Patrick. Having the docs under version control and a part
> of the release is preferred.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I'd advise against this. Only people with filed CLAs can be allowed to
>> commit to your docs, also the PPMC must review each change - currently
>> they are in svn, if you move them to wiki you'll have to manage this
>> issue via wiki auth. See this discussion on whirr:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-19?focusedCommentId=12876503&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-12876503
>> 
>> Whirr eventually went with mvn site generation using confluence
>> markup, however I'd probably go with CMS and textile markup at this
>> point (that's what we recently/currently do in ZK)
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html Additional benefit is that you can
>> use this for both your web site and your docs.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Hsieh <j...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to propose that we port the current documentation from its current
>>> asciidoc form to the wiki.  The documentation hasn't had a major structural
>>> update for a while and from some of the lessons we've learned in the past
>>> year it could use a refresh.
>>> 
>>> Here are the main trade offs that I currently have with this move.
>>> 
>>> Pro:
>>> * Documentation will be easier for more people to modify and update.
>>> * The move would simplify the build -- removing dependencies on several
>>> packages including asciidoc, graphviz, syntax-highilght, and suffers from
>>> version incompatiblity issues across different linux/windows/mac os's.
>>> * By requiring design docs for major new features in the wiki, adding them
>>> to the docs will require less effort.
>>> 
>>> Con:
>>> * It will be more difficult to force code commits to make documentation
>>> updates.
>>> * Versioning documentation may become more of a hassle.
>>> 
>>> Lets discuss and when it peters out we can vote.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jon.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // Jonathan Hsieh (shay)
>>> // Software Engineer, Cloudera
>>> // j...@cloudera.com
>>> 
>> 

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