FWIW, I added the aggregate javadocs and each project should now have a 
findbugs report in addition to the RAT report. Unfortunately, several of the 
findbugs reports aren't empty.

Ralph

On Jun 19, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:

> The issue with Sphinx appears to be that it is creating a new Python 
> environment in every module.  This is in service to generate exactly 2 
> documentation files.
> 
> As far as I know xdoc is more powerful than APT and is the format I've always 
> used. However, Maven supports quiet a few template formats - 
> http://maven.apache.org/doxia/modules/index.html.
> 
> From what I could see RST is very similar to APT. I only converted the RST to 
> xdoc because a) I'm quite familiar with it and b) I found a tool to convert 
> it from RST to xdoc so I didn't need to do much.
> 
> The problem with Sphinx is that when it builds the user guide and dev guide 
> it isn't integrated with the rest of the documentation built by the site 
> plugin - assuming you want a multi-module site as I've done in flume-1262.  
> If you don't want a multi-module site then I would suggest not using Maven to 
> build the site at all.  We are mandated to start using the Apache CMS by the 
> end of the year.  Using the site I've built will require updating it with the 
> maven-scm-publish-plugin - 
> http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/, which is going 
> to be somewhat painful.  If all you have are a bunch of static pages and 
> don't really want the maven generated reports then the CMS is a much better 
> way to go as you can directly edit the pages there.
> 
> As for flume-1262, the only way for you to understand what a multi-module 
> site would look like was to build it and then let you take a look.  To do 
> that check out the branch and then run
> 
> mvn site
> mvn site:deploy  -DsiteUrlDeployment=file:///Users/xxxx/flume
> 
> where xxxx is your userid. Then browse to ~/flume/index.html to see the site. 
>  Note that it isn't actually generating many reports right now. Normally each 
> project would include findbugs, pmd, clover or cobertura, etc, although some 
> of these may also be on a CI server.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:32 AM, Mike Percy wrote:
> 
>> Hi Devs, 
>> I noticed the work going on in branch "flume-1262", which appears to involve 
>> porting the existing RST docs to xdoc. I guess this is in response to a 
>> couple of concerns some people have raised: (1) Maven 2 isn't compatible 
>> with the way Sphinx is integrated with the build currently 
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLUME-1282>, and (2) it appears that 
>> invoking Jython to run Sphinx takes more than the default amount of memory 
>> allocated to Maven (requires setting MAVEN_OPTS to increase the memory for 
>> the build) <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLUME-1256>.
>> 
>> Since these issues have clear workarounds, I haven't set aside the time to 
>> try to fix them myself. However, I thought it might be a good idea to 
>> discuss openly on the dev list whether switching to another format makes 
>> sense (and if so, which one). It seems that xdoc was mostly replaced by APT 
>> (almost plain text) in Maven 2 (according to 
>> https://maven.apache.org/doxia/references/xdoc-format.html ). I wonder if 
>> there is a reason why Maven rewrote all their documentation in APT.
>> 
>> While I'm sure RST and Jythonized Sphinx have some drawbacks, they also have 
>> the following benefits:
>> - RST is meant to be very readable in source form
>> - Even tables are readable in source form and are easy to maintain
>> - Sphinx is skinnable / themeable and widely used in Python land
>> - Can output to HTML and PDF
>> 
>> I'm certainly not against moving to something else, but it might be a good 
>> idea to get consensus on a direction before going and independently 
>> reformatting all the documentation. Since the existing docs are already 
>> editable by the community, and people have been submitting patches to them 
>> (while the previous HTML was totally unmaintainable), let's make sure we end 
>> up with something better if we decide to replace it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
> 

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