FYI, I recieved this email 4 freakin times, so if
you are being censored its probably majordomo
built in defenses against spam.
Eric Andersen wrote:
> This mail was sent to Fluxlist, Ken Friedman and me some hours ago.
>
> Why hasn't it appeared on the list???
>
> Ciao
> Eric
>
> ##################################
>
> High!
>
> >Actually Ken has unsubscribed from Fluxlist.
>
> IPUT recalls the process:
>
> 1.
>
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:
>
> (...)
> > Internet petitions do not work.
> (...)
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2.
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:42:04 +0200
> From: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Fluxlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Internet petitions do not work
>
> High!
>
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:
>
> > Internet petitions do not work.
>
> Eric Andersen - after extensive research -
> have informed me that
> it was the internet petition more than anything else
> that made the bureaucrats in Sao Paulo Bienal
> realise the consequences, and
> reconsider their decision concerning Ivo Mesquita.
>
> Hugh!
>
> aa
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3.
>
> (>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:47:58 +0200
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Offlist note)
>
> (...)
> >many of Eric's claims are also sheer fabrications and lies
> (...)
> ---------------
>
> 4.
>
> Since IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private,
> recieving the above "offlist note" by Ken Friedman
> IPUT have forwarded it to Eric Andersen.
> ---------------
>
> 5.
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:10 -0400
> From: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Offlist note (fwd)
> Sender: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Dear Tamas,
>
> I enjoyed immensly the reaction from your mail-friend in Oslo. Can I tell
> him that I know about it and how it pleased me?
>
> All the bests
> Eric
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 6.
>
> Date: 28 Jul 2000
> To: Eric Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
> Subject: Re: Offlist note (fwd)
>
> High, dear Eric!
>
> >Can I tell him that I know about it and how it pleased me?
>
> Sure.
> Especially, because it's evident for him
> that you know about it.
>
> I would accept with pleasure
> if you would tell him that
> Tamas St.Auby is a notorious liar,
> he is not an artist.,
> not even a non-art-artist.,
> but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat,
> who thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all,
> who is an uncurable solipsist
> - or something like that.
>
> Hugh!
>
> aa
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 7.
>
> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:59:26 +0200
> To: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to
> exchange email.
> Status: RO
> X-Status: A
>
> Dear Tamas,
>
> Why the hell did you involve me in correspondence with Eric Andersen?
>
> Private correspondence ought to be private. Now you've started things up
> again.
> He doesn't like you any more than he likes me.
> (...)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 8.
>
> Date: 3 Aug 2000
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
> Subject: Re: Please keep my private correspondence private if you wish to
> exchange email.
> Cc: Eric
>
> High, dear Ken!
>
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:
>
> > Private correspondence ought to be private.
>
> I'm sorry, Ken,
> IPUT doesn't believe in the notion of private.
> If one shares anything
> it is immediately ought to be collective
> in the holy name of Techne.
> Noone should, can oblige IPUT to keep
> the shared in private.
> IPUT enjoys glasnost.y.
>
> > He doesn't like you any more than he likes me.
>
> Yes, we know.
> It's because Mr Andersen doesn't trust. anymore
> the secretary of IPUT,
> because she knew, but
> - althought she had some obscure love-st.ory with him
> while they met at a Landsbergis-party some years ago in Toscana)
> didn't tell to him what
> Szaraz Belshar wrote to Ben Vautier about him:
> >Eric Andersen is a notorious liar,
> >he is not an artist.,
> >not even a non-art-artist.,
> >but a monomaniac, boring bureaucrat, who
> >thinks he is the only expert of Fluxus and all,
> >who is an uncurable solipsist.(.)
> (Well, the laughter exploded when Vautier wrote it to Benjamin Patterson
> who then wrote it to Mr. Andersen who wrote back that
> it was him who wrote it first. to IPUT
> about himself
> who then wrote to Ms. Belshar
> - and all this happened during one afternoon
> between 5 countries .
> Did you hear that?)
> (...)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 9.
>
> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:43:03 +0200
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (St.Auby Tamas)
> From: Ken Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Public forum.
>
> Dear Tamas,
>
> I don't agree with your idea of broadcasting private
> correspondence, but if you feel everything ought to
> be public, then go right ahead and publish what you
> want.
>
> We can communicate via a public forum rather than
> through private notes.
>
> Yours,
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Since Ken unsubscribed from the FLUXLIST
> how can IPUT
> >communicate via a public forum rather than
> >through private notes
> ?
>
> Hugh!
>
> aa
>
> #####################################
