PK, thanks for your previous comments. You asked a long time ago for a reference of my previous posting it is: http://www.ipdg.org/museum/lingo/hs/index.html About painting from aaron... Forget relevance, politics, sociology, psychology, science, history, critics, forget it all! Look inside yourself, look at the material, cut through the crap, be brave, create only for self relevance, self reference, forget importance, forget value, hang nothing on yourself or on art. let it not be about something else, let you and your relationship with art be pure! Who really knows anything about the rest of those subjects, who really knows much of anything about themselves? What can you actually authenticly participate in or opinionate about besides your own life? Not much! Cecil Developmental Facility for the Design, Manufacture and Export of FLUX.MEX.US. http://ipdg.org/flux.mex.us/ Patricia wrote: I wouldn't say painting is dead, nor is it irrelevant - it's just that the field has expanded a great deal into other media since the huge shock value of the Salon Refusee and the Armory Show of 1913. Shock value seems to have transferred itself to installations, assemblage, digital work and photography. And, of course - Art & Politics - always reflective of the times, seems to be reflected more in the latter mediums. Speaking of Art & Politics - wonder what we can expect from the next 4 years? " In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth To be acclaimed the leader." But I digress. I've just been reading the venerable "Art Forum" (can't find much else out there) and a review of "Glee: Painting Now" a traveling show now at the Aldrich Museum of Contemporary Art. To excerpt part of the review: " 'Glee?' Only in the wake of 13,000-plus stock market averages would such a title be imaginable. Optimism, confidence, and fun are the watchwords here, and the curators, Amy Cappellazzo (of the Palm Beach Institute of Contemporary Art, where the exhibition will travel next) and the Aldrich's Jessica Hough, are pretty open about the fact that these twenty artists 'skirt weighty subject matter of politicized content.' the show is premised on the idea tht painting exists with more conviction now that it has been forced to shed some of its worn conventions and historical baggage in order to survive alongside new digital technologies. Might as well call the show "Easy." Certainly, painting is alive and well and there are those who stir controversy, but most of what I see would be considered "decorative" and that's not necessarily a pan. Looking through the Artforum reviews, I find the following subject matter: installation, painting, installation, photography, design, video, video, video about painting, installation, installation, painting, installation, painting, photography, video, work on paper, painting, sculpture paintings and drawings, paintings, relief, painting, painting, photography, painting, photography, sculpture, painting, installation, installation, video, painting, assemblage (I think), installation, painting, video (God, I'm exhausted!!!) Anyway, according to Artforum percentages, if they are any guide, it would appear painting is alive!! Metaphorically speaking, I think it's making its own....metaphors. PK "A free spirit takes liberties even with liberty itself." Francis Picabia Aaron Kimberly wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'd enjoy hearing your comments about painting. I recall seeing a set of > paintings at the Whitney over a year ago of "Divas". The commentary called > into question whether painting is still a living language or > historical/sentimental like 'opera'. Perhaps Baudelaire would agree that > painting is no longer the ideal vehicle for engaged metaphors of modern > life. Yet, there remains the compulsion to paint. Do we risk irrelivance? > What do you think? -- .<.<.<.<.<.<.0.>.>.>.>.>.> Join the Collage Poetry group mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a list for posting and reading poetry created in a constructive manor like a collage. .<.<.<.<.<.<.0.>.>.>.>.>.>