I thought, some fluxlisters would like to read this posts I received from Tamas. And then, I promise, I stop boring everyone with my moral concerns...but remain on Fluxlist of course.
All the best, Bertrand ----- Original Message ----- From: "St.Auby Tamas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bertrand Clavez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: Re: excommunication > > H, dear Bertrand, > > On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Bertrand Clavez wrote: > > > However, I don't think that firing Kandinskij was so bad: > > the guy was simply damn boring and obsessive, > > and even not very clever. > > > In this case I don't want to qualify Kandinskij's emils. > I qualify the mode of his excommunication. > > I would like to make > my standpoint clear for you again. > The Internet seems to be the best tool of democracy. > There are many researches in programming to develop > the easiest and the most practical mode of vote. > In the future the net will be the polling booth. > > The emil-list could be a kind of home-made laboratory > for this type of practice. > From time-to-time, since years I tried to suggest > this simple idea for the Fluxlist. > In vain. > When Genius 2000 was excommunicated two years ago, > I pressed this vote-button, but > most of the members were not responding at all, > only one or two list-members answered (positively). > In fact almost nobody understand on the Fluxlist > the easy and funny tool of decision. > I don't care if Genius 2000 or Kandinskij > or Eric or IPUT fits or doesn't fit to the list. > What I want is: vote! > Why allen bukoff decides alone? > > > Hope the situation still can change, and I'm writing everyday to do so. > > > Thank you. > But: when I have realised that the Fluxlist > is not really interesting, > en plus most of the members are authoritarian > (which means they don't adapt democracy), > I wanted to unsubscribe, > but Eric kept me back. > > > Anyway, does it really matters, as far as, basically you disagree with > > the list? (though, morally, ethically, it's stupid and unfair > > to have done that, firing you both from the list, I mean) > > > No, it doesn't matter at all. > I am in a protest position > only because they didn't vote in our cases. > I don't want to be on the Fluxlist. > > do you allow me to pass your post on Fluxlist? >Sure. >But they didn't kick me out to read >my embarrassing emils again. >You will bring the trouble on your head! > >But you know what? >I have been excommunicated from everywhere, >even from Hungary after being arrested >for Happenings, Fluxconcerts and Samizdats! >That's why I could leave this country in 1975! >I have not been kicked out only from the >Roman Catholic Church, so >I left it in 1979 in Geneva >(my auto/excommunication was video-taped and >shown in Rome (!) the next year). >Unfortunately the tape doesn't function anymore, >but maybe I have somewhere some still fotos >and the sound from it). > Thank you for expressed understanding. > > > H, > a >