Jason,

Good Question. My memory isn't that good so I'll have to do a little digging to find my original source for this. It is partially covered in the File Management Best Practices document on the Technet site. See the link below.

http://www.filemaker.com/technet/members/resources/downloads/file_management_best_practices.html

Check pages 5 - 7. This document does indicate that you can manipulate dbs on the fly but recommends a more conservative course. I'll do some digging and see if I can find where I read this originally. When I find it, I'll send it along.

Best regards
Bruce


Jason L DeLooze wrote:
Hi Bruce,

Where did FileMaker, Inc give this advice (updates to databases be done off line)? Is this advice in some Knowledge Base article or some other documentation?

Best wishes,
Jason L. DeLooze
Annapolis, MD  USA


On 5/4/08 at 9:41 PM -0400, Bruce Herbach wrote:
Hi Jane,

Here is the grain of salt. They don't say you can't do it, just that it's not recommended. I have on several occasions made small changes to layouts and scripts on the live database. I try to do it late in the day when they number of available users is small. So far I have not run into any issues with the database or complaints from users. If I have to make a substantial change to one or more layouts, scripts etc, my procedure is to do all of the updates to the database then create an empty clone. Take the running version down, extract all of the data and import into the clone. Verify the data and then put the new version back on line.

For the most part I do this type of change over a weekend when the DB can be off line with out to many complaints. I have had a few rush changes where it was done in an evening.
Best regards
Bruce

Jane Reeder wrote:
Re: calculations via related field issues Hi Bruce,

That's a really interesting change of direction. I can't imagine taking a database down every time I want to tweak a layout.

Thanks for letting me know.

J


On 5/4/08 12:40 PM, "Bruce Herbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Hi Jane,

    I did some research a while back on updating a database while it
    is being served on a FM 9 server and found that Filemaker
    recommends that updates to databases be done off line.  They did
    not say you couldn't update a database but that it is preferred
to update it off line and then put the updated database on line.
    They don't list all of the possible problems,  but if a user has
    the database open during the update,  it's possible that they
    may not see the changes until they close the database and
    re-open it.

    I hope this helps.
    Bruce Herbach

    Jane Reeder wrote:


        I have a client where this happens on a regular basis. I
        update a layout or
        a field and the only way for her to get the update is to
        close out her file
        and re-open. Running Server 9 on a Windows box, mixed Mac
        and Win clients.

        Anyone else see this?

        Jane

        On 5/1/08 9:40 PM, "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:


            I also had the strange situation today of updating a layout
            and revising a calculation on the server file, then having
            the calculation work correctly on my computer connected to
            the server, but another computer hooked to the same server
            showed only the prior, incorrect calculation result. (In
            this case all the tables referred to were part of the same
            file and permissions were set to the same permissions
            group on
            both computers.)




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