Hi Tim,

I was never saying Web Viewer was the be-all-end-all. I was trying -- off
the top of my head* -- to think of uses for this new (to me) found tool --
specifically to deflect a "why would you ever use it" implication.

(* submission of a web form with contextually prepopulated FileMaker data
was not off the top of my head, it is a technique I have used since 1999 and
can presumably be done more elegantly with dynamically built Web Viewer
content)

With Web Viewer and content being dynamically built one layout can be a
thousand layouts. I think that is pretty cool!
[kinda like "index.php"]

That's all.

Thanks for your thoughtful response,
Brad

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Tim Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:

> Brad, I'm glad that your new-found web viewer experiences are
> positive, but I have some misgivings about your opinion of their
> benefits. Web viewers are great for some dynamic, presentation-level
> coding but they are by no means the be-all and end-all.
>
> > Further, one of the things that security experts will tell you is to not
> > even let the potential hacker know there is something to hack. When you
> make
> > a field totally obscured on a FileMaker layout then there is incentive
> for
> > someone to find that value out "What the bleep is Miki's Salary!?!?".
> With
> > HTML there is no way the end user knows they are being denied certain
> data.
>
> And if you leave a field off a FileMaker layout, there's no way anyone
> knows it's in the database apart from you. The idea is to present
> appropriate information to each user, and this can be done via
> numerous FM techniques (founded on access privileges).
>
> > Moreover, you could load the HTML via a Custom Function. Then deploy.
> Then
> > the client says they want this, that and the other changes made --- edit
> the
> > Custom HTML Function and overwrite that code and the layout is changed
> > *programatically* -- if you have someone on the Client's Team that you
> trust
> > to execute the Custom Function overload, then you can handle it via
> email.
>
> Which, to me, doesn't necessarily sound more attractive than editing
> the FileMaker layout. But moreover there is an issue with getting
> information back and forth between a web viewer and FileMaker fields:
> web viewers are great for presentation but they are not designed for
> data input.
>
> One of the most successful uses I've made of web viewers was for a
> client solution that involved uploading files to a server, which used
> the server's Apache and PHP to publish details about the uploaded file
> so that the FM client could display the upload status. Extracting HTML
> from 3rd party web sites is another obvious use. But I don't believe
> that using it as a central method of data interaction *within* the
> FileMaker ecosystem is going to be particularly successful for you.
>
> --
> Tim Mansour <[email protected]>
> Neologica Print & Promotions (ABN 63 904 335 408)
> Certified FileMaker 10 Developer
> 159 Commonwealth Street : Surry Hills NSW 2010 : Australia
>
> What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or
> tinder? / I am an enchanter. / By what name are you known? / There are
> those that call me ... Tim. -- From Monty Python and the Holy Grail
>



-- 
Sincerely,
Brad

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