You're right, of course, Jonathan. I always enjoy watching discussions about 
new features people would like. There are always a few really good feature 
requests that I never would have thought of.



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On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:

> Totally agree with you, Paul. I'm sorry to be a stick in the mud.
> 
> I would never go back to where I started with FM4, and I'm REALLY liking 11 a 
> lot more lately. But it's not done.
> 
> In a glass-half-empty sort of way it's frustrating to see where FileMaker is 
> NOT. Looking from that perspective can't help but skew one's thinking and 
> reinforce the negative. 
> 
> When you have to restart one of your several servers every few days because 
> it just wants to take the afternoon off you get an attitude. (I have a client 
> that has a boatload of SQL and FMP and the SQL guys just shake their heads 
> and chuckle.)
> 
> When you have to manually update layout elements all over a large solution to 
> reflect one tiny little change, you dream of better tools. 
> 
> When your users are griping at you that the solution that was built to 
> accommodate THEIR convoluted way of working is running so slowly they have to 
> plan it around their lunch hours, you are stuck between a rock and a 
> FileMaker. (Don't talk to me about bad design: it's been optimized by some FM 
> gurus waaaay smarter than me.) 
> 
> When you have to spend 30+ grand on a super fast server so your critical data 
> can be backed up in a timely fashion throughout a high-data-volume day and 
> not shut the place down every time you think you should grab a snapshot...
> 
> I know it's easy to be a grumbler. The goods really do outweigh the bads. 
> That's why I'm still here. I KNOW we have it good. 
> 
> That does not mean we cannot wish (and pray to the gods of Santa Clara) for 
> something even better. 
> 
> Or at least bug-fixes. 
> 
> j.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Seriously? I'm of the exact opposite opinion, Jonathan. There have been some 
>> amazing features for developers since v6! Think of how much faster you can 
>> develop now than you could back then.
>> 
>> 7 offered the ability to have multiple tables -- and external tables -- in 
>> one file which (along with the addition of script parameters) made scripting 
>> easier.
>> 
>> 8 gave us tabs, which totally reduced the number of layouts needed -- and 
>> the time to create them -- as well as the data viewer (which is HUGE for 
>> debugging and for writing new calculations). We also got custom menus, which 
>> helped to clean up our layouts even more.
>> 
>> 9 gave us conditional formatting and auto-resizing, to make our layouts 
>> cooler and faster to create, as well as non-modal scripting windows (which 
>> is just the coolest!).
>> 
>> 10 had the ability to insert objects into the tab order (huge time-saver), 
>> and script triggers, which gives us more control over the interface, and 
>> just about every other little thing.
>> 
>> 11 has the Inspector (I like it!). It also has charts, portal filters and 
>> quickfinds: things that we've been creating for years, but are now native.
>> 
>> When clients ask me if they should upgrade, I always tell them about the 
>> cool new stuff I can offer them. But the biggest thing the most recent 
>> versions have to offer is that the clients won't have to pay for so many 
>> hours to get things done.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Paul Spafford
>> FileMaker Database Superhero,
>> Spafford Data Solutions
>> 
>> Tel: 613 838 9956
>> www.paulspafford.com
>> www.ottawafilemakerdeveloper.com
>> www.fmlayoutmode.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:
>> 
>>> That's all you asked for?
>>> 
>>> What about better management of memory variables?
>>> What about a server console that doesn't lose its connection with the 
>>> server frequently?
>>> What about script control of layout objects?
>>> What about scripting in a text editor?
>>> What about script control of schema modifications?
>>> What about syncing between an FMGo app and the server for intermittent 
>>> connections?
>>> What about better scalability of Server? 
>>> 
>>> I could go on and on...
>>> 
>>> Honestly, FM12 will be loaded with surprises, and--if history is any 
>>> guide--it'll be chock full of stuff for the users and not so much for us 
>>> developers.
>>> 
>>> j.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Richard S. Russell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2011 Jan 25, at 15:57, Lee wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Any idea when the next version will be released ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A good guess would be right ...
>>>> 
>>>> ... abbbouuuuttt ...
>>>> 
>>>> ... ouuuttttt ...
>>>> 
>>>> NOW.
>>>> 
>>>> No, FMI is famously tight-lipped about when they'll release upgrades, or 
>>>> what those upgrades will entail, but they've been pretty good about giving 
>>>> you something worth getting right around January or February of each year, 
>>>> and that's where I'd be putting my money this time, too.
>>>> 
>>>> While we wait, we can always engage in the parlor game of speculating 
>>>> about what feature we'd most like to see. I've got 3 things I've dropped 
>>>> into the FMI suggestion box several times the last year, and I'm hoping we 
>>>> get them both:
>>>> • Bring back the "Tools" floating toolbar (tho now it'd be called an 
>>>> "inspector").
>>>> • Give us 1-click vertical-alignment buttons right next to the 
>>>> horizontal-alignment buttons. (Note that they've already done this for 
>>>> formatting container fields.)
>>>> • Stop auto-scrolling the "Manage Scripts" window so the most recently 
>>>> worked-on script is always at the bottom.
>>>> 
>>>> Then there's the one that I've been suggesting for most of the last 
>>>> decade, applying only to the Windows version:
>>>> • Why CAN'T I drag something out of the printable area when "Show Page 
>>>> Margins" is turned on?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Fletcher
>>> FileMaker 9 & 10 Certified Developer
>>> 
>>> Fletcher Data Consulting
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://www.fletcherdata.com
>>> 502-509-7137
>>> 
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> 
> --
> Jonathan Fletcher
> FileMaker 9 & 10 Certified Developer
> 
> Fletcher Data Consulting
> [email protected]
> http://www.fletcherdata.com
> 502-509-7137
> 
> Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group
> Next meeting: February 17, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish
> Special Location!
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