Yes. Mostly it boils down to the fun!
--sm
On Nov 19, 2012, at 5:41 PM, John Weinshel wrote:

> There may be some unnecessary over-reaction here. It seems to me you're 
> offering an honest description of what you want, which is a good thing in a 
> client (no, I'm not looking for work!). Few gigs show up perfectly aligned 
> the way the book says they should, and anyway, there is no book. 
> 
> One of Filemaker's great strengths is its ability, and that of its 
> developers, to tackle unorthodox projects. I suspect many developers on this 
> list have acted as a 'consultant'-- what the subject line says-- to clients 
> who want to do most of the work themselves, either to save money and/or 
> because it's fun; the consultant in turn has the luxury of being compensated 
> for their hard-won expertise while avoiding heavy lifting. It's true such an 
> arrangement can find many ways to go south, but so can well-mapped waterfall, 
> well-managaged Agile, and anything in between projects; with a good 
> client-consultant matchup, this could work out quite happily.
> 
> I take Corn's point that there shouldn't be any substantive difference in the 
> quality of the work between someone working on their own or as part of a 
> shop. 
> 
> You might also try the Filemaker Experts list, which I believe is a bit 
> larger, as well as FMI's site (http://developer.filemaker.com/search/).
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> John Weinshel
> Datagrace
> Vashon Island, WA
> (206) 463-1634
> Associate Member, Filemaker Business Alliance
> Certified For Filemaker 12
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Steven J. Messner" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: FileMaker Pro Discussions <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:39:51 -0500
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Consultant
> 
> I will keep your advice in mind. It's never a good idea to ignore a man with 
> strong opinions. (And it's never easy being thoroughly dressed down.)
> --steve
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Steven J. Messner" <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: FileMaker Pro Discussions <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:51 PM
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Consultant
>> 
>> >>Point taken. Let's hope you're mistaken. Check back with me in a month and 
>> >>I'll let you know how it went. Or maybe I'll be forced to get in touch 
>> >>with you when disaster strikes. -:)
>> 
>> Thanks, but I am retired; well, semi-retired. (This business is like the 
>> mob. You can never really get out.)
>> 
>> That notwithstanding, there is no chance I would ever get involved in any 
>> job for any amount of money with these kinds of beginning requirements.
>> 
>> Someone is blowing smoke up your dress, trying to sound like they know what 
>> they are talking about when they definitely DO NOT. Building a database 
>> simply doesn't work that way. What you describe as the "mundane tasks" are 
>> not mundane at all. Field definitions, navigation and scripting are the easy 
>> parts??? That is certainly news to me after nearly a quarter century in the 
>> DB business. And field definitions are not separate from building tables, 
>> they ARE the tables!  A database is not something assembled from parts, some 
>> made here and others made there. It takes a real top notch project director 
>> to coordinate work done by multiple programmers so that it all fits together 
>> and works. There are maybe two dozen people in this business all together 
>> who can pull that off and clearly, none of them are in your employ.
>> 
>> Now, as I said, I am semi-retired and have no dog in this fight. But if you 
>> are smart, you will fire whoever is giving you this extraordinarily bad 
>> advice, stop trying to tell developers how to correctly do the job they 
>> already know how to do, and let someone like Corn Walker or any of dozens of 
>> others on this list tell you the correct way to get where you want to go 
>> without being handcuffed by your roadmap. Not only will you get there 
>> faster, it will be much cheaper than doing it the wrong way over and over 
>> again.
>> 
>> And BTW, if there is ANYTHING I know more about when it comes to FMP 
>> programming than just about anyone else in the business, it is navigation. 
>> See "AutoNavigator" under the products tab on our web site; I wrote the 
>> entire thing. Putting a high quality tab and navigation system into a 
>> database is supremely difficult: exactly the opposite of "mundane".
>> 
>> It sounds like Mr. Walker might be willing to take the time to coax you 
>> along to a more wise and productive decision and, unlike this grouchy old 
>> geezer, do it more diplomatically. That would be one of the smartest 
>> decisions you ever made.
>> 
>> 
>> David Kachel
>> Foundation Database Systems
>> Custom Software Developers
>> 
>> Publishers of:
>> 
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>> [An incredible time-saving tool for Developers -
>> Build tab-sets up to seven levels deep,
>> up to twenty layouts per level, 140 tabs per layout;
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>> To learn more, visit our web site (below).]
>> 
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>> "Database Design for FMP" (a free download)
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>> 
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