I wouldn't necessarily say that catch rates are disappointing. With IPS, it is
very difficult to say what a good catch rate is. Clearly, the ISS box "caught"
more things than all of the other guys, but remember that the purpose of an IPS
is to handle that narrow window between problem and patch--if you are relying on
your IPS to block SQL Slammer, you've got some major architectural conceptual
errors in your network that IPS won't help you with.
I was pretty careful NOT to make any pejorative statement about the catch rate
(except to say that relative catch rates give you relatively 'better' IPS), and
I think that we ALL have to be careful in that area.
I don't believe that anyone can credibly put a stake in the ground and say "an
IPS must block these specific attacks" and then defend that position. This is
very different from, say, A/V or firewall, where there's a much clearer
black-and-white line about what you need to support.
Clearly there are some pathological environments where an IPS somehow
substitutes for a firewall and where 6000 signatures is the "right number" to
have. But in enterprise deployments, it's very unclear to me how to adequately
test an IPS for coverage. I can do performance easily enough, but checking
coverage (which is what the Mu-4000 does) just seems quite dangerous.
Anyway, I think that it is useful to see the comparative values on IPS catch
rate, but I would not go so far as to say that having an average catch rate in
the 30% to 40% range is "bad" or "good" for these products.
I want to distance any testing we do from the bogus premise that you see in
tests like the ICSA certifications where they pick specific attacks and say that
you must block these. To me, that's not supportable. It may be in an IDS, but
IDS and IPS are entirely different beasts, and we were testing these products as
IPSes, not IDSes.
jms
Ravi Chunduru wrote:
this is really a great report and i am sure lot of effort has gone
into this. catch rates and perforamance is really caught my eye.
Catch rates are really disappointing across the board except for ISS.
i do understand that client attack detection is new, but even the
server side catch rates are awfully low. i understand that these are
expensive boxes. i did not see any vendor responses on low catch rate
and performace.
is this due to technology limitation or is it that devices tested are
not up to mark?
Ravi
On 14 Nov 2007 15:28:18 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
After months and months and months in the lab, a huge UTM test I did for
Network World is now available (for free, folks, for free) on their web site.
I apologize in advance if you have to click 800 times to read the whole 19,000
words, but here goes:
Main story starting point:
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2007/111207-utm-firewall-test.html
Just the discussion of IPS in the UTM firewall/enterprise space:
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2007/111207-utm-firewall-test-ips.html
Chart on catch rates based on Mu-4000 testing:
http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2007/111207ips.html
If you're not sure that enterprise should even be running IPS in their
firewalls, you can click on the link below for a header page which has further
links with some discussion on the pros and cons of that issue:
http://www.networkworld.com/buyersguides/guide.php?cat=865480
Enjoy or not, as you see fit.
jms
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