Very well put, Mike. I think that when people haven't looked at the guides,
they may not realize that the bulk of what is in them is informative rathter
than a simple "do this...do that" set of instructions. I personally believe
that anybody who is touching Win2K3, claims interest in security, yet hasn't
read the Microsoft Security Guidance documents should spend a few days with
those guides before making any proclamations. One can't speak to that which
one does not yet know. :-)

Laura  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Dieroff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Derick Anderson'
> Subject: Re: What server hardening are you doing these days?
> 
> As a man of few words Laura, I have to say touche!!!
> 
> Server hardening - what a concept when each and every server 
> has and depicts different needs. Nothing can compensate for a 
> solid understanding in infrastructure and application 
> Security needs of a network.
> 
> Correct me if I am not wrong, but many of the guides 
> facilitate an understanding. Then it's all up to the imagination!!!
> 
> Mike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laura A. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Derick Anderson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:26 AM
> Subject: RE: What server hardening are you doing these days?
> 
> 
> > Okay, now I'm just chuckling. Have you actually downloaded 
> these guides? 
> > The
> > Win2K3 NSA OS security guide IS the Microsoft guide. One 
> and the same.
> > Copyrights intact. S A M E  G U I D E.
> >
> > Again, the NSA puts the MICROSOFT Win2K3 security guide on 
> the NSA site
> > because it is solid, tested, and very, very well-done.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Syv Ritch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:34 PM
> >> To: Derick Anderson
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: What server hardening are you doing these days?
> >>
> >> Derick Anderson wrote:
> >>
> >> > I also stick to Microsoft best practices when it comes 
> to Microsoft
> >> > servers, it's just safer that way. I haven't yet implemented the
> >> > Windows
> >> > 2003 Security guide templates (for fear of breaking our 
> production
> >> > environment) but I plan to do that after I've taken care of
> >> some other
> >> > more basic issues (domain split, network split, user
> >> lockdown, etc.).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Maybe you should reconsider. There is lot better than MS when
> >> it comes to advising on security.
> >>
> >> http://www.nsa.gov/snac/downloads_all.cfm
> >>
> >> The NSA. They have both guides and templates. It actually
> >> works and is far more secure than the MS advice.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks
> >> http://www.911networks.com
> >> When the network has to work Cisco/Microsoft
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