I believe that X3D-Edit provides dual views. On Jul 20, 2013 5:26 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry if I mixed 2D and 3D ideas here. > On Jul 20, 2013 5:12 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Now that I think of it, this is the old argument of immediate mode versus >> retained mode graphics. A hybrid system I believe is best. Postscript/pdf >> has 3 types of graphics. Images, text, and curves. Many systems these >> days only deal with images and text. I'd like to remind people that >> curves are important too. I realize that curves are decomposed into >> triangles and later textures, but if we manage them as curves, there's a >> chance for a better user experience. However some like bumpy user >> experiences and some like smooth user experiences. That's why we provide >> dual/hybrid modes. >> On Jul 20, 2013 4:20 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Another program which has worked well in dual text/graphic mode has been >>> dreamweaver. Yes I understand it may not do all the behavior you want. >>> However it doesn't stop you from adding that behavior. >>> On Jul 20, 2013 4:13 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> One such test automation system is Sikuli, which uses images and image >>>> recognition as key components. To implement the image as 1D text seems >>>> rather foolhardy. >>>> On Jul 20, 2013 4:09 PM, "John Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think one thing that has succeeded is macro editors. You can make >>>>> macro languages which work on selectors or add conditionals/recursion to >>>>> such a macro editor to achieve a fairly complete programming language. >>>>> You >>>>> could also treat exceptions similar to conditionals. I believe the area >>>>> this works best for is test automation. >>>>> On Jul 20, 2013 11:22 AM, "frank" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 07/20/2013 04:21 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: >>>>>> >> 3) Get rid of established but unnatural ways of manipulating data. >>>>>> >> Most importantly, get rid of flat text and find neat graphical >>>>>> >> representations for the most common structures. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Bouhahaha! >>>>>> >>>>>> This! >>>>>> >>>>>> There have been so many attempts - by people who were by no means >>>>>> stupid - to replace text as the primary representation of code! >>>>>> And ALL of them have failed, miserably! >>>>>> The best anyone has ever achieved was to enthuse a few managers, >>>>>> much to the detriment of the engineers who eventually had to use >>>>>> the shit on a daily basis! >>>>>> >>>>>> Also: >>>>>> 1D representations are established exactly BECAUSE they are NATURAL! >>>>>> >>>>>> The logical part of your mind (the neocortex, some people used to call >>>>>> it the "left half" of the brain, but this has firmly been established >>>>>> to be a somewhat shitty simplification) works serially in time: >>>>>> >>>>>> state(t+1) = f( state(t) , input(t) ) >>>>>> >>>>>> It works.... in 1D! An it likes representations in... 1D! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Frank >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> fonc mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>>>>> >>>>>
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