Last time, I ended up calling Simon using SkypeOut on his normal phone.
A Skype conference call didn't happen. Some are not comfortable speaking
in a foreign language on the phone. Anyway, I've got a webcam and
Festoon is installed alongside with Skype. Video conferencing with
Windows Messenger should also work but I've only tested vSkype/Festoon
so far.

My IM coordinates:
http://www.jeremias-maerki.ch/contact.html

On 22.09.2005 09:47:09 Manuel Mall wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:19 pm, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > Hey, I make mistakes. If you guys find anything wrong I hope you make
> > me aware of it. Thanks for the feedback. I'd give a lot to beam one
> > or two of you to my place to have a chance of discussing this
> > face-to-face.
> >
> Ever considered a webcam + MSN or similar?
> 
> > On 22.09.2005 09:07:40 Manuel Mall wrote:
> > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 02:36 pm, Apache Wiki wrote:
> > > > Dear Wiki user,
> > >
> > > <snip/>
> > >
> > > >   = Borders and Padding =
> > > >
> > > > - Borders and paddings are generally replicated on each page when
> > > > block-level FO spans more than a page. Nesting FOs can cause
> > > > multiple such marks to appear at the beginning and at the end of
> > > > a page. For each break possibility inside an FO and for breaks
> > > > between FOs that are nested under a parent breaking such marks
> > > > these border and padding widths may have to be taken into account
> > > > when building the element list for the break possibility,
> > > > depending on their order. The first non-conditional length
> > > > (counted from the edge of the reference area) will cause
> > > > subsequent conditional lengths to appear in every case. + Borders
> > > > and paddings are generally replicated on each page when a
> > > > block-level FO spans more than a page. Nesting FOs can cause
> > > > multiple such marks to appear at the beginning and at the end of
> > > > a page. For each break possibility inside an FO and for breaks
> > > > between FOs that are nested under a parent breaking such marks,
> > > > these border and padding widths may have to be taken into account
> > > > when building the element list for the break possibility,
> > > > depending on their order. (The first non-conditional length
> > > > (counted from the edge of the reference area) will cause
> > > > subsequent conditional lengths to appear in every case. ''This
> > > > last sentence is probably wrong!'')
> > >
> > > Jeremias, I was wondering about that myself when I read your page.
> > > My understanding is that the question if a border/padding is drawn
> > > or not is independent of any spaces "surrounding" it and what
> > > treatment they receive. That is the decision if a border/padding is
> > > drawn depends solely on its conditionality, and the respective
> > > "is-first" / "is-last" traits on the area in question.
> > >
> > > And yes, there is space-start/end stuff in the inline LMs which is
> > > broken but I would suggest to leave that until the space handling
> > > in bpd is sorted out.
> > >
> > > Manuel
> Further to this in your Example 9 you wrote:
> 
> ... padding is not suppressed ...
> 
> I think it is unless "is-first" or "is-last" is true.

Uhm, I think I need to revise Example 9 as a whole.


Jeremias Maerki

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