Hi,

Thanks for your inputs, Andreas and Jeremias.

The whole thing suddenly makes sense when you think in terms of area
tree instead of fo tree...
Still, I think it's not obvious by reading the spec and I'll probably
ask for clarification on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And there is a remaining question raised by Andreas:

<snip/>
[me:]
>> If the table is broken across several pages and the header shall be
>> replicated, do
>> border-before for table and table-column play again in border-resolution
>> for the second and following headers?
[Andreas:]
> YES! Not only border-before even, I think, but that is open for
> interpretation. The column's border-before *and* after need to be
> considered for each body, header/footer that appears on a given page.
> 
> One could also argue that the column's span the entire table for each
> page, so the column's border-after does not need to be considered for
> the header's last row, for instance.

Interesting point of vue. I think it can be summarized by the attached
picture. Jeremias' position corresponds to 1., and I suspect this is the
more common understanding. Andreas' is 2., but I'm afraid you'll be
alone ;-) Mine's tends to be 3., although I'm ok with 1.

If there is no other comment I'll go with 1.


> Apart from that, there is the tiny note, of course, that we're talking
> about hypothetical situations, in which border-conditionality is
> overridden for all table-elements.
> The default value being "discard" makes the interplay between
> border-collapse and border-conditionality actually much simpler than it
> seems at first...
> 
>> <snip />
>>>> - when we break at a grid line, should the two rows meeting a the line
>>>>   count in border resolution? Or only the row before for the
>>>>   border-after at the end of the page, and the row after for the
>>>>   border-before at the beginning of the following page?
>>>>   I would go with that latter.
>>>
>>> That's right.
>>
>> Fine (that means that the border may potentially be different at the
>> bottom of the previous page and at the top of the next page).
> 
> Only if you have no header/footer. If there is a repeated header/footer,
> then the border will neatly be the same for all pages. If you have no
> header or footer, then overriding border-*-width.conditionality on the
> table or table-body is enough to prevent weird effects.

Still, nothing prevents users from trying to achieve those weird effects ;-)

<snip/>
>>>> - when we break at a grid line, should the entire border appear on each
>>>>   page, or the higher half at the bottom of the first page, and the
>>>>   lower half at the top of the following page?
>>>>   I would also go with that latter.
>>>
>>> No, the entire border has to be painted. This is
>>> BorderProps.COLLAPSE_OUTER/COLLAPSE_INNER as used by the renderers. See
>>> the BorderProps class.
>>
>> So the grid line at the page break would have two borders, one at the
>> bottom of the page, one at the top of the next page?
>> That's fine for me, but again I think it's specified nowhere.
> 
> Hmm... not exactly. Think of the part of the table on one page as an
> independent subgrid, that has nothing to do anymore with the preceding
> or following subgrid. It is the gridline which is split in two, and each
> of the new gridlines will have one fully resolved border. In a sense the
> border is duplicated, yes... :/

I'm ok with that now :-)


Thanks,
Vincent

PNG image

Reply via email to