Jeremias Maerki said: > For the example you showed below, you don't need fo:float. You can do that using fo:block-container: > > <fo:block-container start-indent="-4.5mm" height="1.2em" > space-after="-1.2em"> > <fo:block start-indent="0mm" font-family="Symbol" > width="4.5mm">←</fo:block> > </fo:block-container>
You're right in a block context, but this does not work in an inline context. inline-container does not remove its content from the flow. (am I missing something?) On top of it, block-container has the same problem as float: in a table-cell context, their start-indent is computed relatively to the cell left border, not to the region-body left border. Hence, my need for absolute positionning on the inline progression dimension. There are numerous examples on the Web of marginalia in XSL-FO, but none using tables. Suggestions welcome! > > > On 13.08.2006 12:08:30 Benoit Maisonny wrote: >> Vincent Hennebert said: >> > Dear Fop users, >> > >> > I'm currently thinking about the implementation of side-floats (<fo:float float="start/end">) into Fop. >> This is great news! Lack of side float support have actually prevented us >> from using FOP in our main XSL-FO application, for the last 4 years or so. >> > It turns out that there is a >> > choice to make between several design decisions which imply different behaviors regarding the placement of floats on the page. >> > >> > To help me make a decision, I'd like to know which usage you would >> make >> > of side-floats: on a general manner, what sort of typographic material >> > would you typeset using side-floats? Particular things of which we >> don't >> > think in the first place? >> We're using side floats to implement a kind of marginalia. When some content was deleted from the previous version of a document, our clients >> want to see a change bar and a left-pointing arrow in the left margin. Example: >> <fo:float font-family="Symbol" width="4.5mm" float="left" >> start-indent="-6mm+1.5mm"> >> <fo:block font-family="Symbol" width="4.5mm" >> >←</fo:block> >> </fo:float> >> The negative start-indent puts the float in the left margin, out of the content flow. The objective is to not affect the content layout. We expect this start-float to appear roughly at the same height as its anchor, and certainly on the same page. >> > >> > More specifically, as the XSL-FO recommendation allows some freedom in >> > these areas: >> > - would you expect a side-float being placed on another page than its >> > anchor? Would you prefer the whole chunk of text to be deferred on >> the >> > following page? >> We expect them on the same page, whatever happens. However, we put those >> floats in the margin, so that they don't alter the region-body layout at >> all. >> > - would you expect a side-float being split on several pages? >> There's nothing to split in our case: we only have a single character in >> the float. >> > - would you expect different layouts, depending on whether a set of >> > side-floats would be placed on the middle of a page or at the bottom >> > (thus, with some of them on the current page and the others on the following page)? >> > >> It would be problematic for us if a document had so many deletions that the side-floats would stack horizontally and begin to alter the text layout, or to stack vertically (with fo:float clear attribute) and be pushed to the next page. >> The ideal for us would be to stack them on the z-axis. >> > >> > >> > Any comments, remarks, hints of all sort would be welcome. >> I wish we could position the float in the margin using absolute x coordinates. So, we could position the float at say -6mm from the left border of region-body and at the same height (y axis) as the anchor. If I'm not mistaken, this is not possible in XSL-FO, because we're mixing absolute and relative positioning. >> I haven't looked in details into XSL-FO 1.1 change bars, so I don't know >> if that new feature would cover our use case (i.e. if we can somehow make >> the change bar look like an arrow). >> Thanks for the poll, >> Benoit > > > > Jeremias Maerki > > .................................................. Benoit Maisonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director & Consultant http://synclude.com Synclude --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
