On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:49:15AM -0600, Alexander Hulpke wrote: > Dear Bill, > > > Dear GAP forum, > > > > Let G be a primitive transitive subgroup of S_n. > > I am interested by the links between: > > 1) the lengths of the orbits of {1,...,n} under the action of the > > stabilisator > > of 1 by G. > > 2) the degrees of the irreducible representations occuring in the natural > > representation of G. > > Frobenius reciprocity and the fact that the permutation character (=natural > character) is the induced trivial representation of the point stabilizer show > that the permutation character has inner product m with itself, where m is > the number of orbits of the point stabilizer. > > Thus the observation is true for doubly transitive groups: the permutation > character has the form 1+chi with chi irreducible, so deg chi must be | > \Omega |-1, thus proving the statement. > > It also is true (for trivial reasons) for regular groups and (an ad-hoc > observation) dihedral groups of prime degree. > > This covers all but 22 of the primitive groups of degree up to 17. Of these, > 7 are Frobenius groups for which I think again an ad-hoc argument works, > leaving 15 groups, of which 9 fail (and 6 pass) the conjecture. So chances > are about 50%. > > But 50% is still somewhat surprising. I suspect the reason is that character > degrees must divide up the group order and length of stabilizer orbits divide > the stabilizer order. Trying to write a smallish (in this case <=17) number > as sum of a few divisors leaves open only a few possibilities, making it > likely that the same numbers are involved.
Thanks for your very useful answer. Maybe I should give some motivation: Let K be a number field, L its Galois closure over Q (the rational field), and G = Gal(L/Q). The Dedekind Zeta function of K is equal to the Artin L function associated to the natural representation of G (seen as acting on the complex embedding of K). (the Artin L function is an arithmetic object functiorialy attached to representations of Galois groups of numbers field). Thus it factors as a product of Artin L functions associated to the irreducible representations that occurs in the natural representation. Computing this factorization is very important for computing the Dedekind Zeta function. However computing the Galois group G is difficult (This is the GAP function GaloisType). But some property of G are easy to compute (e.g. primitiveness, and the orbits under the stabilisator of a point). So any trick which can allow to compute the factorization without computing the exact Galois group is useful. Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ Forum mailing list Forum@mail.gap-system.org http://mail.gap-system.org/mailman/listinfo/forum