Sure, Sanjog.

On Jan 19, 2018 3:29 PM, "Sanjog Sigdel" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would love to collaborate on following points:
>
> 2. FOSS Awareness / College Communities
> 7. Tie-up with Colleges and Organisations
> 9. Research Collaboration with University
> 10. Synergy between Academia and FOSS Communities
> 11. University ties or students.
>
> All of the above mentioned points talk about collaboration with College
> Communities,  University Administration and Research Wings. I believe
> contributions I've done together with Kathmandu University Open Source
> Community will help in dedicating some efforts for above issues. I will
> soon meet with Bal Krishna Bal Sir and share my rough plans. We can discuss
> these points along with the KUOSC community contributors. Then we will come
> up with a short listed action plans and propose it to FOSSians from FOSS
> Nepal.
>
> Regards.
> Sanjog
>
> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 12:47:31 PM UTC+5:45, nootan.ghimire
> wrote:
>>
>> *C. Actions Requested & Resources Needed*
>>>
>>>    1. Monthly Meetups- Subir
>>>    2. FOSS Awareness / College Communities - Subir
>>>    3. FOSS-related Training - Subir
>>>    4. Developer Level Contribution - Shristi
>>>    5. Dev Meet- Issues and Solutions - Shristi
>>>    6. Regular Events for momentums - Avash
>>>    7. Tie-up with Colleges and Organisations - Avash
>>>    8. Proper Awareness - "FOSS doesn't mean only Linux" - Avash
>>>    9. Research Collaboration with University, Government- Bal
>>>    10. Synergy between Academia and FOSS Communities- Bal
>>>    11. University Ties or student - Revive - Avinash
>>>    12. Aware People - Budhi
>>>    13. Existing Communication Media- Mailing List, Facebook, IRC - Do
>>>    we need to think about New Effective real-time communication medium? 
>>> -Rhoit
>>>    14. Network and Sharing- Mission Reuse and Progressive - MJT
>>>
>>>
>> I can and am willing to contribute to points: 3,4,5,8, (probably some
>> parts of 9, 10) and 14.
>>
>> Regarding Issues about Entity, I think that should be isolated with other
>> parts of this discussion. Maybe just call for the people who are willing to
>> assume the responsibilities, recognize them and move on.
>>
>> On the account of moving on/structuring, My 2 cents are:
>>
>> - Lets Prepare a list of goals that we want to achieve as a FOSS
>> community in nepal. (I can see there are five objectives listed on the
>> wiki, maybe we need to revisit it again?)
>> - Lets also prioritize those goals
>> - Lets create action plans to achieve these goals (through community
>> interaction, calling for ideas, basically talking about why and how), with
>> room to add more.
>> - Lets make sure that anything and everything we do aligns to those
>> goals. (Which should also be a indicator to how successful we were on our
>> respective priorities)
>> - Lets reflect on ourselves periodically, recognizing and analyzing our
>> actions, publishing them,  and making amends.
>>
>> As such, I say lets create a detailed process of how we do things "The
>> FOSS Nepal way". Lets throw a bunch of "why?"s to anything and everything
>> we're planning to do, answer them and make sure everyone knows that.
>>
>> I'm also willing to take part in such discussions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Saroj Dhakal <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm excited to see these discussions.
>>>
>>> Already great ideas have come, let's short list them and build community
>>> consensus on it.
>>>
>>> I'm willing to contribute as much as I can, but unfortunately I'll not
>>> be able to take part in the meeting today because of an activity planned
>>> last week.
>>>
>>> Please accept my apologies.
>>>
>>> Let's do it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Saroj
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2018 1:10 AM, "Sanjog Sigdel" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *++Adding Aadesh dai and Samar dai in the loop( They are the ones who
>>>> introduce to the FOSS world :) )*
>>>>
>>>> Adding to Prabin Sir's Point.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it help if we also initiate FOSS NEPAL REGIONAL AMBASSADORS
>>>> and COLLEGE AMBASSADORS?
>>>>
>>>> Back in SFD 2015, there was a point during group discussion session
>>>> which is "*Decentralizing FOSS activities in every possible corner of
>>>> country to spread Open Philosophy*". I believe it is only possible if
>>>> we recognize *contributors, communities and colleges *all over Nepal.
>>>> Organization like Teach For Nepal has TFN College Ambassadors. Those
>>>> Ambassadors act as a mediator between Colleges and TFN to organize events
>>>> and promote campaigns.
>>>> - Via these Ambassadors we can do back and forth communication among
>>>> Communities and colleges.
>>>> - College Ambassadors can share any updates from-to FOSS Nepal, help in
>>>> providing resources from FOSS Nepal while their college Communities are
>>>> organizing events
>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can act as mediators between Open Source
>>>> Communities of a particular region, College Ambassadors among that region
>>>> and FOSS Nepal.
>>>> - We can assign one member from each colleges for College Ambassadors
>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can be chosen based upon particular regions.
>>>> Just to make sure these ambassadors have proportionately handful of
>>>> communities and College Communities to work with.
>>>> - Let us also set a milestone of initiating small communities in new
>>>> colleges and communities with proper co-ordination among College,
>>>> Communities and their respective Ambassadors.
>>>>
>>>> This month some of us Volunteers listed FOSS communities of Nepal in
>>>> this repo: FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL
>>>> <https://github.com/FOSSKavre/FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL>. We were able
>>>> to list 22 of them. WOW :)
>>>> But sad part is that some communities exists only as Names. So we might
>>>> at least be able revamping our existing communities.
>>>>
>>>> - I see this Concept of Ambassador as a way to gain core contributors
>>>> in FOSS Nepal. And it will also help in building a organizational structure
>>>> for Outreach Purpose.
>>>>
>>>> So why not give it a try?
>>>> हामीले पनि नगरे कस्ले गर्ला हैन त ? :)
>>>>
>>>> PS: Prabin dai - Last September KUOSC le organize gareko SFD 2017 maa
>>>> ma lagayat kehi Kavre ko Volunteers haru milera FOSS KAVRE suru gareu :).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​Regards,​
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *SanjogSigdel*
>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal*
>>>> *​Volunteer- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL*
>>>>
>>>> *Founder- FOSS KAVRE​*
>>>> *M:977-9841497866 <984-1497866>*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Prabin Gautam <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adding to Bobby's Suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets also think of FOSS Nepal Ambassadors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FOSS Nepal members who are abroad and still willing/interested to
>>>>> contribute  can be made FOSS Nepal Ambassadors. They can involve their
>>>>> network to bring project, program or do fundraise for the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know Core FOSSians like Subir dai, Jwalanta, Abhishek, Akash,
>>>>> myself, and many more are all around the world now. We should use this
>>>>> potential and their network to take FOSS Nepal forward.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Bobby Basnet <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Hempal dai for the note and adding me in this thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to join in the meeting tomorrow but I already have other
>>>>>> scheduled meeting and won't be able to make it. So, I would like to voice
>>>>>> my say in this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the Polls:
>>>>>> *Q1: *Yes, Definitely.
>>>>>> *Q2: *No (Will follow and not lead and cannot make any commitment
>>>>>> for 3 months at-least)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here are my suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *1. Get more professors/teacher involved in the community.*
>>>>>> From my experience being involved with the community,  I have seen
>>>>>> that the most active members are the students. As they graduate and move 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> with their lives their involvement with the community is almost
>>>>>> non-existent. So if we could get more professors involved in the 
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> who could advocate FOSS to their students this will produce a continuous
>>>>>> batch of workforce who have the time and the energy to keep the community
>>>>>> momentum going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Action Plan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -  Reach out to the professors/teachers in our
>>>>>>    immediate contact and add them to the mailing list/Facebook 
>>>>>> Group/Viber
>>>>>>    Group so they are at-least informed about the community events and 
>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -  Create a team that would visit universities and colleges and
>>>>>>    meet the professors, make them aware about the FOSS community and add 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>    to the community channels.  It would be difficult to create team that 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>    travel to each colleges. So this could be integrated with events such 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>    Linux Talk, FOSS ka Kura, Hour of Code, etc where community memeber 
>>>>>> are are
>>>>>>    normally already willing to visit the campus as a resource person . 
>>>>>> They
>>>>>>    could be FOSS Nepal representative and we could provide with a formal
>>>>>>    letter in FOSS Nepal letterhead to make it seem more official. We 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>>    also have a template of such meeting, where we set agenda and  
>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>>    actions plans
>>>>>> *.  *
>>>>>>    - During events  like SFD there is a always a praise worthy
>>>>>>    collaboration among students from different institutions. It would be
>>>>>>    better to get even different institutions  involved and if not that
>>>>>>    at-least professor level collaboration too on such events
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *2. More open source projects. *
>>>>>> Re-quoting Avash "FOSS doesn't mean only Linux". We should have more
>>>>>> FOSS projects in our Github repo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Action Plan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Encourage students to publish their project.
>>>>>>    Each semester hundreds in not thousands of software are developed
>>>>>>    by students from different colleges and universities. They develop the
>>>>>>    software, get graded and then are stored on the students's machine for
>>>>>>    ever. If we could advocate to these students that there projects need 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>    have this faith. If only they pushed their project to Github Repo 
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>    FOSS license, their project could have more visibility, could have 
>>>>>> real
>>>>>>    life implementation and potentially have other contribute to their 
>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>    and their legacy live on for ever. These projects are usually not 
>>>>>> made for
>>>>>>    commercial profit making use so they should be reluctant to publish 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>    project. (Question though!!! Should we judge the quality of code and
>>>>>>    project? I vote No)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *3. Have more fun*
>>>>>> While a student at Kathmandu University on SFD eve we had open
>>>>>> discussion talks on  FOSS. What is FOSS? What are it's merits? What could
>>>>>> be it's demerits? We also had candle walk, painting (logos of any Free 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Open Software or anything that represents it) and Musical event. It 
>>>>>> helped
>>>>>> us to create an image that we FOSSians are not just geeks with Linux in 
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> computer. We are also friendly people who like music and to make friends
>>>>>> and watch movies and have lovely conversation. Such event helped more
>>>>>> people be aware about our community and made them easier to approach us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a result, we had relatively large FOSS Community there and even
>>>>>> if not part of community still lot of people in the campus were aware 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the FOSS movement. It is something we could learn and implement for FOSS
>>>>>> Nepal as well. Moreover we also need to attract non-programmer  people to
>>>>>> our community ( who could contribute us in documentation, designing,
>>>>>> administration or anything really).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Action Plan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Promote FOSS not only with technical presentations and talks
>>>>>>    but also with documentaries, movies that are made with FOSS tools, 
>>>>>> friendly
>>>>>>    non-formal meetups, MEME, musical events, etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *4. Linkup with International FOSS Communities, Chapters *
>>>>>> Lets link up with national and international FOSS communities and
>>>>>> other community that believe and promote FOSS ideology (Eg. Mozilla, Open
>>>>>> Data, Wikimedia). They might have programs, collaboration proposal or 
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> lessons for us that will help our community grow. We have our glorious
>>>>>> history of best SFD celebrations globally. Maybe the veterans from the
>>>>>> community can remember of some forgotten link with such communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Action Plan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Identify relevant communities, chapters, clubs both  nationally
>>>>>>    and internationally and establish communication channel with them.
>>>>>>    - Index the communities that we have communication with and
>>>>>>    Invite them to our events and meetups
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sad that I won't be able to attend the meeting tomorrow and
>>>>>> would be really happy if received similar  note on tomorrow's meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bobby Basnet
>>>>>> Managing Director, Semantic Creation
>>>>>> <http://www.semanticcreation.com/>
>>>>>> Managing Director, VisualiseVR <http://www.visualisevr.com/>
>>>>>> Mobile: +977 9841812820
>>>>>> Skype: bobbize
>>>>>> Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Arjun Gautam <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel very happy to find that we all are interested in this. Hope,
>>>>>>> to have a good meeting tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arjun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:33 PM, [email protected] <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> me too, who else would be there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17 January 2018 at 14:32, manish thapa <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will be there
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Pravin Raj Joshi <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please do let me know if you all feel I can be of any help in any
>>>>>>>>>> program or carrying out an activity. I am up for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pravin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2018 11:00 AM, Prabin Gautam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see good discussion going. Once we start and gain some
>>>>>>>>>> momentum, we may partner with various organizations - governmental,
>>>>>>>>>> universities and public or private organizations. To deal with them, 
>>>>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>>>> bunch of FOSSian will not be enough. Our Legal entity should be in 
>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>> All of you know this and I strongly would emphasis on getting 
>>>>>>>>>> renewed in
>>>>>>>>>> first phase.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In tomorrow's meeting, I wont be there but I expect the team to
>>>>>>>>>> come with at least 2 concrete plans  -
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 3 months
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 1 year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, in three months we can at least do and not limited
>>>>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Renew FOSS Nepal and be legal
>>>>>>>>>> 2. have atleast 3 monthly meeting to track progress.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Update Web presence (Wiki/website), Bring our social
>>>>>>>>>> networking tools to life - twitter, facebook page, youtube.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. revive our Youtube FOSS NP Weekly program.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think the more event we organize, more involve we can be, more
>>>>>>>>>> volunteers, more spreading of FOSS, and more impact we can create. 
>>>>>>>>>> Few
>>>>>>>>>> years back we started to bring all our Open Community in one place 
>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>> consortium which was another great idea but didnot progress on that. 
>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>> we get back to momentum we can definitely use that platform to 
>>>>>>>>>> involve more
>>>>>>>>>> people and organizations.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think our 1 year should be and not limited to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    1. Annual Open Technology meetup (reviving FOSS Info Mela !!
>>>>>>>>>>    or developer's meetup type of program) 4/6 months to SFD(Between 
>>>>>>>>>> March-May)
>>>>>>>>>>    .
>>>>>>>>>>    2. Annual SFD
>>>>>>>>>>    3. Few Concrete projects
>>>>>>>>>>    4. Reviving our Involvement in National ICT Activities as
>>>>>>>>>>    stakeholder. like IT policy meetings, IT Curriculum, Conferences, 
>>>>>>>>>> Seminars,
>>>>>>>>>>    Panel discussions.
>>>>>>>>>>    5. Continuing regular programs like FKK and FOSS NP weekly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Openthito
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Dadhiram <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> फोसमा आस्थाराख्ने उर्जासिल अभियान्ताहरू
>>>>>>>>>>> नमस्कार
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Paani Saffa Garnu Paryo ra Baani Sudharnu Paryo".
>>>>>>>>>>> *Action Item 3-  Like bagmati को पानी । अहिले धेरै सुध्रिएको छ ।
>>>>>>>>>>> संखमुलमा चराहरू बाँच्न थालेकाछन् । त्यसैले हामीले पनि आफुलाई हिट 
>>>>>>>>>>> गर्न
>>>>>>>>>>> लागेको कुरा केहि छ भने गरौ ।  कमुनिटिहो सकारात्मक सामुहिक हितको 
>>>>>>>>>>> लागि केहि
>>>>>>>>>>> गरौ भन्ने सबैमा हुन्छ ।  गर्न केहि नसकेनि गफ गर्न एउटा फोरम चाहिन्छ 
>>>>>>>>>>> नै त्यो
>>>>>>>>>>> अहिले नै छदैछ । सपार्न नसके नि बिगार्न हुन्न अहिले नि बिगारेको केहि 
>>>>>>>>>>> छैन ।
>>>>>>>>>>> समुदाय एउटा मानविय उर्जाहो प्रयोग गरेर घट्दैन बड्छ ।  जागौ आजैबाट 
>>>>>>>>>>> केहि गरौ
>>>>>>>>>>> गर्नसके राम्रो गरौ नसके केहि नबिगारौ । गर्न पर्ने कुरा सबै लिस्टेड 
>>>>>>>>>>> छ । मेरो
>>>>>>>>>>> आफ्नो उर्जा यति नै हो । *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *धन्यवाद *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *दधि *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Sanjog Sigdel <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hempal Dai and Fossians,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see the discussions and updates about FOSS NEPAL. Our
>>>>>>>>>>>> community is actually lagging behind while communities that are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> composed of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers from FOSS NEPAL are doing great. It is actually a good 
>>>>>>>>>>>> point to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see communities fostering and spreading our common goal of raising
>>>>>>>>>>>> awareness about Open Philosophy. But then, at the same time, we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
>>>>>>>>>>>> clue in any milestone these communities achieve, if FOSS Nepal is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> credited
>>>>>>>>>>>> ? And also FOSS Nepal is lagging commitment, contributions and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> initiators
>>>>>>>>>>>> which I think will be resolved if we keep continuing discussions 
>>>>>>>>>>>> like these
>>>>>>>>>>>> and also reach to some conclusions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be there at tomorrow's meeting and will give my
>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment to take responsibility of leading at least one project 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *SanjogSigdel *
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *M:977-9841497866*
>>>>>>>>>>>> * ​Volunteer:- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Founder:- FOSS KAVRE​ *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Pravin Raj Joshi <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might not be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evening. Picking up from the questions that were written in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hempal Ji's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes below are my comments and thoughts. I am a little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrated in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> others are blatantly saying things that should be contributed to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> movement in Nepal, but people are taking charge of it. So I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> little offensive. Please take it with a pinch of salt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is Legal Entity? What did it do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is talk of legal entity, when there is bare presence. A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal entity matters if big enough so that it is visible. It is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have legal setup and all in place, but what is the value of it, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that, but the organization barely functions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are WE (BIG Question Mark ???
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are kinda stuck because he thought and even now think too
>>>>>>>>>>>>> small. It is time to become a vocal movement. Software, security, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all needs to be worked on. I saw an email thread where it was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> open data movement in Nepal started in 2011-2012. That is shame 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for FOSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal and personally for me as no one even raised a voice against 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open data? -- it is the idea that some data should be made 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for public good. Who started this in Nepal??? I am not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> claiming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is FOSS Nepal or me. There are a lot of people who have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this from 1998-2012, who are just lost from that conversation. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else, let's get the history right or even start a debate on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal For (What) ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a matter of concern at all. Renewal is just part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of administrative process and shouldn't even come up for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand-over community and Lead-Legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand over to whom??? We have seen multiple organizations in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> last 17 years try to use FOSS for their own gains only. Do you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to them? Or to people whose primary interest is their own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can, will not name, many people who have benefitted from this. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often claimed to me, in the face, that they can contributed so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS, but only thing that I see is their own direct benefit with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing for FOSS Nepal. These people will readily take up FOSS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal as it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means more for them. So kindly give me 5 names that all will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hand over FOSS Nepal to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Similar Structure or New Structure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does structure matter when there is nothing happening? Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it better go out and talk FOSS or is it better to sit down and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership - Updation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership will not happen when we are weak and people claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are better and we cannot do anything about it. Due to our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weakness
>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies now are flagship bearers for FOSS in Nepal. So people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations promoting FOSS will go to them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need a strong FOSS working team, How do we make it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now we need vocal team, who is able to shout, write and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk trash if need be to convince people that FOSS is already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal and FOSS Nepal is the spearhead of it. Many organizations 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> started putting FOSS Nepal as a by-product to their achievements. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get out and provide ideas, support and help for FOSS in Nepal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How active is the Community
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community needs to be made active. Community will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> active if organization is not active -- "Paani ra Baani sadhai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mathi bata
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tala bagcha". If we sit down and discuss, so will the community. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actively engage, so will the community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being a little critical, but I am really frustrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at organizations and people claiming their contribution to FOSS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reaping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the benefit from it shamelessly utlizing it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My thoughts would be to update the team with people we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find, mainly vocal ones. Create a set of programs that we can all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to and make it happen. I am pretty sure each one of us 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now is at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a stage where we can afford 5000-10000 rupees (one time) to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal and help with initial push to change things. Also we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage where we can all come up with 1-2 program ideas, which we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collectively pitch in and then we can create a small committee 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on the programs to carry out in coming year. Also we can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside sometime to contribute to FOSS Nepal. Who will do it, if we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More thoughts, but I would prefer to follow others rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pravin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Prabin Gautam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> - MJT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jesus had only 12 followers, but they were very good retweeters."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - check my blog @ http://mjt.com.np
>>>>>>>>> - twitter @mjt_emp3r0r <https://twitter.com/mjt_emp3r0r>
>>>>>>>>> -volunteer @open community
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------
>>>>> Prabin Gautam
>>>>>
>>>>>
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