Access to svn does not imply access to MediaWiki. Changes to MediaWiki have been almost entirely up to core developer discretion, and as I have demonstrated, 'consensus' has largely implied that they, and only they, thought the changes made Wikipedia better. The ideas are rarely presented to the community in a formal, well-designed demo format (as SMW has been, time and time again), and they are not evaluated for their usability. When a usability issue arises third party tools are not properly considered. Rather, they reinvent the wheel in an inferior manner.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Denny Vrandečić <d...@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de > wrote: > That's pretty much exactly what Semantic MediaWiki offers. > > SMW has developed a lot, since many of you saw it. By now, you may > * switch off inline queries if you are afraid they won't work fast enough > * get rid of the ugly syntax everyone is scared about (and simply hide > it all in templates by using the #declare function) > * have all that data sitting there inside the DB and export it in > standard data formats like RDF or JSON (ok, well, the last one is > *almost* finished) > > We would be very much interested in having SMW tested on a labs machine > with a copy of a reasonably big Wikipedia (e.g. German). > > And, just to take note to the title of this thread -- I never thought > and the developers never gave me the feeling that the software is out of > reach for the community. Access to SVN was swiftly granted, and both Tim > and Brion were always giving encouraging and valuable feedback to us. > > Cheers, > denny > > Magnus Manske wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nikola Smolenski <smole...@eunet.yu> > wrote: > >> David Gerard wrote: > >>> The other useful thing that can be done with templates is to > >>> standardise the field names in them as much as possible per wiki. > >>> > >>> The reason? To enhance machine readability of data in them. People are > >>> SERIOUSLY INTERESTED in this. > >> Another useful thing: after an article is parsed, write all the > >> templates it uses and their parameters in the database. Even if at first > >> it isn't possible to read this data on Wikipedia, Toolserver could do > >> wonders with it :) > > > > People (including yours truly) have been asking for this for years... > > > > Magnus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l