2009/3/20 geni <geni...@gmail.com>: > Now that argument is flawed on a number of grounds but I think I'll > take the easy option. Where is the link of the following pages:
Try the edit pages. >> 1) Authors contributed acknowledging that they are licensing their >> edits under the GFDL; >> 2) The GFDL has an "at least five principal authors" requirement to >> give credit on the page title; >> 3) Wikipedia does not give credit on the page title; > > Strangely there is no requirement that the history and the title page > not be the same thing. There's no reason to assume that they are. The GFDL defines Title Page as the text "near the most prominent appearance of the work's title, preceding the beginning of the body of the text". The interpretation that an arbitrarily titled link somewhere on the document (it used to be called "Older versions") to a difficult to navigate changelog exists to satisfy the author credit provisions of the GFDL (section 4.B, since you asked) is hardly more defensible than the interpretation that credit is given to the Wikipedia community ("From Wikipedia"), or that no credit is given. You're in woolly territory to begin with, which again re-affirms what I've been saying: we can identify, through past practices, community-created terms of re-use, the way that Wikipedia itself implements the GFDL, etc., a reasonable baseline. Providing credit by linking to the page is a reasonable baseline. And again, nowhere does a significantly greater expectation for credit reasonably arise. >>It's also evident because a GFDL document can be >> created without a page history while still giving author credit. > > However it cannot be modified without creating a history and that > history is required to include "new authors" among other things. Irrelevant. >>I am saying that we have established, >> through historical practice, policy and debate, that crediting >> re-users via link or URL is a minimally acceptable baseline. > > False. Look up history merging sometime. Re-parse "minimally acceptable baseline". -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l