John, Thanks a lot - you made my Saturday! ;)
> Is it somehow possible to let newcomers write articles together with > oldtimers until they learn the most basic things? But why (?) we suggest that it's impossible? If we will put that as (realized) aim this is very possible - we should just to embody in Wikipedia community such thing as apprenticeship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprenticeship . Isn't it sorta funny that Wikipedia contain guidelines which seems to be ignored by project community? ;) > How > can we change this, both at a human level and with technical solutions? ... > Perhaps it is possible > to make personal sandboxes where they can get some guidance before the > dogfight starts? Some people believe that it's good for newcomer to put him/her into the middle of dogfight from the day1. I'm not really supporter of that approach - there will be more than enough dogfights in future. So it's really important (mission-critical in terms of Wikipedia mission) what happens before the first dogfight. We have some stuff (RSS-feeds, personal sandboxes etc.) to assist both grossmeister and apprentice, but sure we should develop some more. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM, John at Darkstar<vac...@jeb.no> wrote: > > How the new contributors are approached by the community is very > important and it seems like they face a very hostile environment. How > can we change this, both at a human level and with technical solutions? > Is it somehow possible to let newcomers write articles together with > oldtimers until they learn the most basic things? Perhaps it is possible > to make personal sandboxes where they can get some guidance before the > dogfight starts? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l