> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Milos Rancic<mill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Marc Riddell<michaeldavi...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> And it is this control group, this "consolidation of power" which was >>> described earlier in this discussion, that is keeping the Project from >>> reaching its full potential. This issue has been brought up many times in >>> the past, but each time has been conveniently ignored by this group - which >>> in psych language constitutes denial. In fact, this practice of ignoring >>> persons and/or issues they don't want to confront appears to be a handy >>> refuge for members of this group. There appears to be a fear in some of the >>> more forceful in this group that, if they loosen their grip, they will be >>> left behind. Perhaps they will if they don't grow with it. In any case, this >>> is one of the most pressing issues facing the Project today. And one, if not >>> confronted, which will cause the Project to fall into mediocrity as newer, >>> more tolerant, more innovative projects come into being. >> >> Fully agreed, especially with the last couple of sentences. >> >> ... And except the last one. There will be no similar project to >> Wikimedia, at least during this century. Projects like Wikipedia are >> extremely expensive. Which [rational] projects have or had one million >> of direct contributors? Great Wall, Chinese electrical system, Indian >> railway system? Maybe. Wikipedia had momentum (and because of that >> Jimmy's role is priceless) and it is very hard that we'll see another >> project of such dimensions soon. >> >> As we are inside of the project, we are not able to realize the >> dimensions of what we are building. The biggest number of articles, >> number of words, contributors... -- are just trees in the wood which >> we have created. Numbers are just statistical facts which are not >> important as is. But, all of them make a wood which existed never >> before (and, probably, which won't exist for a long time again). >> >> The point is that we, now and here, are making much bigger decisions >> than how to keep ~10TB of data and build another 100TB of [very >> useful] data in the next couple of years. Our work affects the whole >> human civilization. Would we be able to keep or not our projects as >> healthy places, this would give the answer which path would be used by >> our civilization. >> >> We have two non-exclusive possibilities: (1) centralized >> on 7/27/09 1:36 PM, Milos Rancic at mill...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hm. Mail hasn't been finished. I wanted to save it and consider > finishing it later (probably, I wouldn't send it). So, probably, you > should forget for this email :) > No problem, Milos :-). I've done the same thing myself in the past.
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