2009/12/16 Liam Wyatt <liamwy...@gmail.com>: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > We've advertised third party for-profits in the past with prominent >> > matched donations notices before (albeit controversially). This isn't >> > that different. >> >> As you say, that one was controversial and this one isn't that >> different. Then it should not surprise you that this one is >> controversial too, should it? Or do people lose the right to complain >> against something if it happens the second time? >> >> >> -- >> André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com > > > At what point is something "controversial"? As far as I can remember there > hasn't been a single decision in the history of Wikimedia that has received > universal support. Some people will complain no matter what happens. When > you're the person doing the complaining it is your POV that the issue is > "controversial", whereas when you're the one who isn't complaining then it > is your POV that the issue is NOT "controversial" and the complainers are > just overreacting. > > There is no objective criteria to define controversy. Furthermore, if there > is one place in the Wikimedia world where people complain the loudest, > longest and for most obscure reasons - it's here on foundatio.nl So, whilst > I'm not ignoring the fact that Geni et. al. genuinely feel that this was a > bad decision on behalf of the fundraising team, I do not believe that this > particular issue warrants the term "controversy". It is something that some > people dislike but most people are either indifferent to it or see it > favourably. Your concerns have been raised, elaborated and debated. I don't > think there's anything more that can be said about this particular issue > other than to reiterate already voiced points. > > -Liam [[witty lama]] > > wittylama.com/blog > Peace, love & metadata
There is one point left. We can't measure the change in traffic to Craigslist but we can measure this: http://stats.grok.se/en/200912/Craigslist -- geni _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
