(This is meant as a reply to GerardM, not WJhonson)

Pure data such as longitude and latitude, in the US,  is treated significantly 
differently from the act of creation and determination of a map, particularly 
one that involves "inherent pictorial or photographic nature".

"It is true that maps are factual compilations insofar as their subject matter 
is concerned. Admittedly, most maps present information about geographic 
relationships, and the "accuracy" of this presentation, with its utilitarian 
aspects, is the reason most maps are made and sold. Unlike most other factual 
compilations, however, maps translate this subject-matter into pictorial or 
graphic form.... Since it is this pictorial or graphic form, and not the map's 
subject matter, that is relevant to copyright protection, maps must be 
distinguished from non-pictorial fact compilations.... A map does not present 
objective reality; just as a photograph's pictorial form is central to its 
nature, so a map transforms reality into a unique pictorial form central to its 
nature."

See Mason v. Montgomery Data, 967 F.2d 135 (5th Cir. 1992). 
http://openjurist.org/967/f2d/135


I'm not familiar with the particular project/maps/geodata in question, but a 
blanket statement that claiming copyright on a map is "absurdity" is itself 
wrong.

-Dan


On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:58 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/31/2010 12:21:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com writes:
> 
> 
>> In openstreetmap we are not allowed to import the positions of items
>> based on the locations in wikipedia because they are derived from
>> geoeye/googlemaps for the most part. So there is a rift between what
>> is supposedly creative commons and what is really creative commons.
>> Basically wikipedia is turning into a minefield of copyrighted material.>>
> 
> Are you suggesting that the mechanical determination of a longitute and 
> latitude of some object is copyrightable material?  I.E. it's "position" is 
> copyrightable?
> 
> Or am I reading this wrong?  Perhaps you're suggesting merely that the map, 
> as an entirety is copyrightable.
> 
> W.J.
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