-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:45 PM, <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: >> In a message dated 3/31/2010 1:30:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >> jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com writes: >> >> >>> (e) use the Products in a manner that gives you or any other >>> person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content, >>> including but not limited to numerical latitude or longitude >>> coordinates, imagery, and visible map data; >>> >>> ---Well if I import all the points from wikipedia, it is >>> equivalent to such a mass import.>> >> Yes we have examples where a legitimate copyright holder >> over-extends their claimed rights. Regardless the USGS provides >> these exact same lat/long points. If you're concerned than use >> them. > > I have imported all the geonames for the areas that I am interested > in. That is not the issue. > > The issue is the location of things that are only visible using > high quality sat images from googlemaps and co. We don't have those > positions for many of the locations and they are only available > from non free sources. Because wikipedia does not have a problem > with them being submitted in mass, it makes the total collection in > effect not usable for openstreetmap. > > Now once you start to include points from google mapmaker it even > gets more interesting. > > The content that is not available freely are things like business > listings, touristic points of interest, locations of interesting > buildings etc. I am sure there are a large number of those points > that are not available from any free source, except to go there > with a gps and record the location itself. > > I think the best thing would be for wikipedia to really think hard > about this, and to make a policy that ensures the locations and > maps are also free from copyright issues so that we can use the > information in osm. Given the incredible user base, you might be > able to collect more unique points and have the truly usable. If > wikipedia were to call out to people to do some real mapping work > and not just copying points out of questionable sources, it would > be a great benefit to the total human knowledge. > > thanks, > > mike Use of Google Maps website to derive data does not convey copyrightability. That would be like saying that Adobe has copyright of a graphic design you created in Photoshop, wouldn't it?
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