-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I put my impressions of the moment on this discussion page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Censorship#Some_reflexions_following_the_censorship_polemic_of_May_2010
On 09/05/2010 20:04, Sue Gardner wrote: > Yeah, Pryzkuta, I know there are lots of debates happening everywhere; that's > a good thing --- obviously talking about all this stuff is good, and people > should use whatever mechanisms work for them. All the discussions are good, > and everybody is bringing useful stuff to the table. > > Re Jimmy, my understanding is that he has voluntarily relinquished the > ability to act globally and unlilaterally, in an attempt to bring closure to > that thread of discussion, because he thinks it's a distraction from the main > conversation. Which is, the projects contain, and have contained, material > which many people (different groups, for different reasons) find > objectionable. The main question at hand is: what, if anything, should be > done about the inclusion in the projects of potentially objectionable > material. Should we provide warnings about potentially objectionable > material, should we make it easy for people to have a "safe" view if they > want it, should we make a "safe" view a default view, and so forth. > > My view is that Jimmy and others have brought closure to the "scope of > Jimmy's authority" question. In saying that, I don't mean to diminish the > importance of that question -- I realize that many people are angry about > what's happened over the past week, and it will take time for them to be less > angry. But I think Jimmy's goal --which I support-- is to enable people to > now move on to have the more important conversation, about how to resolve the > question of objectionable material. > > To recap: it's a big conversation, and it's happening in lots of places. That > may need to happen for a while. I would like to see us move into a synthesis > phase, where we start talking in a focused way, in a few places, about what > we should do to resolve the question of objectionable material. I think the > thread by Derk-Jan is a step towards that. But it may be that we're not > ready to move into a synthesis phase yet: people may still need to vent and > brainstorm and so forth, for a while. > > Thanks, > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl > Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 00:16:02 > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] > Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the d > iscussion is happening > > >> 1) There has been a very active strand about Jimmy's actions over the >> past week and his scope of authority, which I think is now resolving. >> That's mostly happened here and on meta. >> > Sue - everywhere - mailing lists, IRC channels, village pumps... > > We need to talk as Wikimedia Community. There is no authority without > communication - face to face(s); keyboard to keyboard. The biggest fire (RfC > flame) is here: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Remove_Founder_flag > > 400 votes - 400 users <!--- (and probably puppets :p) ---> > > Maybe the best way will be to start special IRC debate - about past, present > and future. (and again, and again, and again - yeah) > > Yes... We have bigger problems, but... maybe not. This is real trouble. > > przykuta > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJL6DLoAAoJEHCAuDvx9Z6LPyEIANZz0qs0ETveeNNZl+cLAWYo q6Ivu/2Y49VpfzRrgCm1RtUMiYPxvFtoXPv2PQpOmf4CiU6opm/fFZ06cEp30ete Jey5525ALYyZidrnFaCnzzSl2Mai4zjKsLCcT3FPveAYdPk0JSf5Y4gIiWxU9a3i WTbOnKByved0AN5tHlxFrorGx2cva/atUQX+RDGWfD6YWP4gbiyz4U2HyXaaMMOK GXL3kA3wE/mUXg33hRmqJBVbIrMzQB6vrbkTbAijm2FiLW6j7iGC1iOFUDNMdVdA hteOXYsIZs/UvtGLb8E0xZb+5UmjUtuwP+yMGSBNSy5TzuRVW7obu6AsFOhqSAA= =eOeC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
